I've often thought that this list is more like a littoral, as in
a shore of the vast sea of erudition that its subscribers represent....
John
>You are correct I bow to age before beauty I even think you are prettier =
>than I.
>
>Sinclair
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Niven Sinclair=20
> To: sinclair@matrix.net=20
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Clan Memberships
>
>
> At 19:31 02/05/00 +0100, you wrote:
>
> Niven check the word Clan litteral translation "Children"
> =20
> Sinclair
>
> Check the word literal.
>
> Niven
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Niven Sinclair=20
> To: sinclair@matrix.net=20
> Cc: Milamba@milamba.com ; sinclair@matrix.net=20
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Clan Memberships
>
> At 00:10 03/05/00 +1000, you wrote:
>
> Hello Scottie,
>
> Welcome to the Sinclair list! Where do you hail from? That's =
>very true you know - a clan is not an incorporated body - I don't =
>rightly recall anyone saying it was! BUT a Clan Association generally =
>is an incorporated body, and I believe there was mention of Clan =
>Associations rather than Clans per se. And it's great to hear your =
>world is about being alive! :) Hopefully everyone's is!
>
> Regards
> Margaret :)
>
> At 11:16 PM 2/05/00, you wrote:
>
>
> I don't know about other people but I'm not motley. I am a =
>Clansman. I support my Chief. A Clan is not a legal incorporated body. =
> It IS a family. As far as I'm concerned, I'm related to every Sinclair =
>there is! Your world may be about bits of paper, mine's about being =
>ALIVE!=20
> =20
> -Scottie
>
>
> Scottie,
>
> I'm glad you are "alive" otherwise you e-mail might have suggested =
>a message from
> the other side.
>
> Alas, so many people are dead but don't know it or have committed =
>partial suicide by
> failing to realise and, thereby, release the true talents which =
>lie within each and everyone =20
> of us.
>
> Yes, a Clan is a family (it actually means a family in Gaelic) and =
>we are luckier than most in
> having a family which spans the World and which has a lineage =
>which we can be traced back
> for over a thousand years. =20
>
> Indeed, in a letter written by Henry, Lord Sinclair from Shetland =
>to King John of Denmark on
> 12th July, 1507 he takes us back even further because he wrote:
>
> "....even in relation to the Earldom of =
>Orkney and Hietland
> (Shetland) which lands for certain =
>services to be done to the
> Kings of Norway were alienated heritably =
>to my progenitors
> even before the birth of Christ"
>
> The House of Odin was eventually heired by the Sinclairs through =
>two of the sons of
> Rogenwald, the premier 'jarl' of Norway.
>
> Through Hrolf 'the Ganger' (known universally as Rollo) we gain =
>our Norman descent
> and our name of St Clair because the Treaty which he signed with =
>Charles 'the Simple'
> of France was signed at Castle St Clair-sur-Epte.
>
> Through his younger brother, Einar, who became the 'jarl' of =
>Orkney, we gain our Norse
> descent because the descendants of these two brothers, Sir William =
>St Clair of Rosslyn
> and Isabel, the daughter of Malise II of Orkney, married and gave =
>birth to a son who
> inherited his Orcadian 'jarldom' through his mother and his =
>Scottish Estates through
> his father.
>
> This man was Prince Henry Sinclair who made a momentous voyage to =
>the New World
> in 1398 - almost 100 years before Columbus.
>
> Most of you already know this but it deserves to be repeated =
>again and again until
> this PrInce of Men eventually gets his rightful place in history.
> =20
> Scottie, please join me and other Sinclairs in this great Crusade. =
> It doesn't matter if
> we belong to a Clan Society, a Clan Association or a Clan Trust - =
>they key factor is to
> belong, to participate, to be alive (as you say) and in spreading =
>the word to the younger
> generation so that they, too, might be proud to bear the name of =
>Sinclair (and the
> responsibilities and duties which go with it).
>
> Leave the semantics to other people.
>
> Niven Sinclair =20
>
>
>
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Clan =
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> <DIV><BR></DIV>At 19:31 02/05/00 +0100, you wrote:<BR><FONT size=3D2>
> <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">Niven check the word Clan litteral =
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> "Children"</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Sinclair</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Check the word=20
> literal.<BR><BR>Niven<BR><BR><BR>
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> <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">----- Original Message ----- =
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> <A href=3D"mailto:niven@niven.co.uk">Niven Sinclair</A> =
><BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
> href=3D"mailto:sinclair@matrix.net">sinclair@matrix.net</A> =
><BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
> <A href=3D"mailto:Milamba@milamba.com">Milamba@milamba.com</A> ; =
><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:sinclair@matrix.net">sinclair@matrix.net</A> =
><BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
> Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:09 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Clan=20
> Memberships<BR><BR>At 00:10 03/05/00 +1000, you wrote:<BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">Hello Scottie,<BR><BR>Welcome to =
>the=20
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>recall=20
> anyone saying it was! BUT a Clan Association generally is =
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> about being alive! :) Hopefully everyone's=20
> is!<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Margaret :)<BR><BR>At 11:16 PM 2/05/00, =
>you=20
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