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Celibacy, apart from being very boring, is not the natural order of Man's make-up. It was probably the knowledge that abstention was 'unnatural' which led to the Knights being accused of homosexuality. The strict interpretation of the order to abstain from sexual activity applied when they were on 'active service'. It would be wrong to take the celibacy rule too literally. Men invariably fall short of the ideals they set themselves. Many knights were married. Fathers and sons often served together or followed each other in the service of the Order. Some families (including our own) would have died out if this had not been so. Bob Bryden, the Templar archivist in Scotland, confirms that (a) Hughes de Payen was married to Catherine St Clair and (b) they both visited Scotland during the reign of King David I (1124 - 1153). There is an old document to that effect which I have seen. Bob has had part of it translated at £63 per page but the translator died before being able to finish the work. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find anyone who is conversant with Old Latin or, for that matter, Old Scots. For example, I could make nothing of the document which I saw. Neither words nor letters were identifiable as such. It is a highly skilled task to decipher such documents and the people who are capable of doing so belong to a dwindling band. Niven Sinclair [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html