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Dear friends, Re the shroud, suggest you read Ian Wilson's "The Blood and the Shroud" and more importantly, Garza-Valdes own book, "The DNA of God" which, despite its appalling title provides a compelling scientific argument for a re-assessment ofthe carbon dating. Early next spring, Element Books are to publish our latest work, "Rex Deus: the True Mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau" which lays out,insomedetail, how the Templars held the Shroud for over a century before it passed into the hands ofd the de Charney family. Best wishes Tim [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html