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[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. [ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html ------- Alhumdulillah Take the chip off your shoulder I still find it amusing. Sinclair is an extremely Christian name< Some say the blood of the greatest Prophet before Mohammed flows in our veins. -----Original Message----- From: Kristin A. Hussein <krisawni@internet-zahav.net> To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net> Date: 30 October 1998 17:38 Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329 >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >------- > >To: Sinclair, Lord of Keswick > >Why should it be so amusing to know that Tariq Aziz is, in fact, a >Christian? Many Arabs are Christians, as it happens. Perhaps if more >people in the west realized this, they would be less likely to be so >anti-arab. That said, religion is no basis on which to judge whether or >not a person is good, bad, moral or immoral, clever or stupid . >Unfortunately, regardless of the fact that both Christianity and Islam >preach tolerance of those different than themselves (Islam, in fact, >preaches that Muslims should be tolerant of those of ALL faiths and >itself incorporates much of Christianity and Judaism into it's tenants.) >these two seem to be always at odds with each other. Christians dislike >Muslims and Muslims return that dislike, both without even knowing very >much about the other. Knowledge is the key. If we all would simply take >the time to learn more about each other, I think we would find that we >all have a good deal in COMMON, in addition to those things that make us >different. Just take this Sinclair mailing list for example. All of us >who participate come from different walks of life in different parts of >the globe and yet we all have at least one thing in common - our >Sinclair ancestry - which makes many of us related in one way or >another. Let's look for the things that we have in common, the things >that we can share and that will bring us together - not the things that >make us different and pull us apart. > >Kristin Alynn Hussein >(mother: Linda Irene Sinclair, grandfather: John Ward Sinclair II, g >grandfather: John Ward Sinclair I, gg grandfather: Robert Sinclair, >etc., etc. etc.......) > > >.************************* >Sinclair, Lord of Keswick wrote: > >> [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >> [ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> ------- >> >> John Sinclair Q >> >> Thank you for the correction I do appreciate it. Tarik is a very >> Arabic >> name it amuses me that Tarik Assize deputy PM of Iraq is in fact >> Christian. >> >> Sinclair >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org> >> To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net> >> Date: 29 October 1998 17:11 >> Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329 >> >> >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >> >[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> >------- >> > >> >>The moors more properly the Moors refer to Muslims from North Africa >> >> Othello >> >>and Ben Yusiff are two Moorish names. Gibraltar was named after a >> Moor >> "Gib >> >>the Tar" >> > >> >Actually, Gibraltar is short for Gebel Tarik, Mountain of Tarik. >> > >> >The fight in which our ancestor Sir William was killed took place >> >in Spain. They were on their way to the Holy Land to bury Bruce's >> >heart, as he had requested. They couldn't refuse a request by a >> >Christian Spanish ruler to fight the Moors. The Moors thought >> >them so chivalrous that the Moors returned the heart and the bodies, >> >or at least that's what one version says. >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk> >> >>To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net> >> >>Date: 28 October 1998 01:27 >> >>Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329 >> >> >> >> >> >>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >> >> >>>[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> >>>------- >> >>> >> >>>In message <11194778198970@domain1.bigpond.com>, Mark Bradshaw >> >>><M.J.B@bigpond.com> writes >> >>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, >> sinclair@zilker.net. >> >>>>[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> >> >>>>------- >> >>>> >> >>>>Hi Laurel >> >>>>Here is some more info for you cannot remember what I have already >> sent. >> >>>>The moors >> >>> >> >>>I don't understand the reference to "the moors". As a Scot, living >> in >> >>>Scotland, and a Caithness Sinclair, and peripheral to the debate, >> I'd >> >>>be glad of a more precise definition. >> >>>> when they saw the Scots scattered from each other in the chase, >> >>>>suddenly turned back and surrounded Sir William St.Clair. Douglas >> with >> Sir >> >>>>Robert Logan and Sir Walter logan galloped to the rescue, but >> finding >> the >> >>>>enemy pressing round in increasing numbers and with no chance of >> escape, >> >>>>Douglas took Bruces heart from his neck, round which encased in a >> silver >> >>>>casket and chain which he wore he threw it toward the enemy saying >> " >> pass >> >>>>first in fight as thou won't, Douglas will follow thee or die " He >> then >> >>>>dashed forward cutting his way through the enemy, but the odds >> were to >> >>>>great and he and two Logan Knights, Sir William St.Clair and his >> brother >> >>>>John were slain. Douglas body was found lying over Bruces heart. >> His >> >>>>followers brought it back to Scotland to which they sorrowfully >> returned. >> >>>>The King's heart was buried in Melrose Abbey. >> >>>>Now in 1996 a silver casket was found during excavation in Melrose >> Abbey >> >>>>believed to contain Bruces heart. I see you found the same story, >> >>>>interesting stuff if you ask me. >> >>>>Mark :-) >> >>>>[ >> >>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, >> sinclair@zilker.net. >> >>>>[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >> >>>>[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> >>>>[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in >> the >> body: >> >>>>[ info sinclair >> >>>>[ >> >>>>[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >> >>>>[ >> >>>>[ To: majordomo@zilker.net >> >>>>[ >> >>>>[ unsubscribe sinclair >> >>>>[ >> >>> >> >>>-- >> >>>Jean Haddow >> >>>[ >> >>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >> >> >>>[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >> >>>[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> >>>[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the >> body: >> >>>[ info sinclair >> >>>[ >> >>>[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >> >>>[ >> >>>[ To: majordomo@zilker.net >> >>>[ >> >>>[ unsubscribe sinclair >> >>>[ >> >> >> >>[ >> >>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >> >>[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >> >>[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> >>[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the >> body: >> >>[ info sinclair >> >>[ >> >>[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >> >>[ >> >>[ To: majordomo@zilker.net >> >>[ >> >>[ unsubscribe sinclair >> >>[ >> >[ >> >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >> >[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >> >[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> >[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the >> body: >> >[ info sinclair >> >[ >> >[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >> >[ >> >[ To: majordomo@zilker.net >> >[ >> >[ unsubscribe sinclair >> >[ >> >> [ >> [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >> [ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >> [ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> [ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the >> body: >> [ info sinclair >> [ >> [ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >> [ >> [ To: majordomo@zilker.net >> [ >> [ unsubscribe sinclair >> [ > > > >[ >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the body: >[ info sinclair >[ >[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >[ >[ To: majordomo@zilker.net >[ >[ unsubscribe sinclair >[ [ [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. 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