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[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. [ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html ------- It's also often spelled Tariq. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sinclair, Lord of Keswick [SMTP:xhr19@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 1:28 PM > To: sinclair@zilker.net > Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329 > > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. > [ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > ------- > > John Sinclair Q > > Thank you for the correction I do appreciate it. Tarik is a very Arabic > name it amuses me that Tarik Assize deputy PM of Iraq is in fact > Christian. > > Sinclair > -----Original Message----- > From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org> > To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net> > Date: 29 October 1998 17:11 > Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329 > > > >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. > >[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > >------- > > > >>The moors more properly the Moors refer to Muslims from North Africa > Othello > >>and Ben Yusiff are two Moorish names. Gibraltar was named after a Moor > "Gib > >>the Tar" > > > >Actually, Gibraltar is short for Gebel Tarik, Mountain of Tarik. > > > >The fight in which our ancestor Sir William was killed took place > >in Spain. They were on their way to the Holy Land to bury Bruce's > >heart, as he had requested. They couldn't refuse a request by a > >Christian Spanish ruler to fight the Moors. The Moors thought > >them so chivalrous that the Moors returned the heart and the bodies, > >or at least that's what one version says. > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk> > >>To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net> > >>Date: 28 October 1998 01:27 > >>Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329 > >> > >> > >>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. > >>>[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > >>>------- > >>> > >>>In message <11194778198970@domain1.bigpond.com>, Mark Bradshaw > >>><M.J.B@bigpond.com> writes > >>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. > >>>>[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > >>>>------- > >>>> > >>>>Hi Laurel > >>>>Here is some more info for you cannot remember what I have already > sent. > >>>>The moors > >>> > >>>I don't understand the reference to "the moors". As a Scot, living in > >>>Scotland, and a Caithness Sinclair, and peripheral to the debate, I'd > >>>be glad of a more precise definition. > >>>> when they saw the Scots scattered from each other in the chase, > >>>>suddenly turned back and surrounded Sir William St.Clair. Douglas with > Sir > >>>>Robert Logan and Sir Walter logan galloped to the rescue, but finding > the > >>>>enemy pressing round in increasing numbers and with no chance of > escape, > >>>>Douglas took Bruces heart from his neck, round which encased in a > silver > >>>>casket and chain which he wore he threw it toward the enemy saying " > pass > >>>>first in fight as thou won't, Douglas will follow thee or die " He > then > >>>>dashed forward cutting his way through the enemy, but the odds were to > >>>>great and he and two Logan Knights, Sir William St.Clair and his > brother > >>>>John were slain. Douglas body was found lying over Bruces heart. His > >>>>followers brought it back to Scotland to which they sorrowfully > returned. > >>>>The King's heart was buried in Melrose Abbey. > >>>>Now in 1996 a silver casket was found during excavation in Melrose > Abbey > >>>>believed to contain Bruces heart. I see you found the same story, > >>>>interesting stuff if you ask me. > >>>>Mark :-) > >>>>[ > >>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. > >>>>[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see > >>>>[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > >>>>[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the > body: > >>>>[ info sinclair > >>>>[ > >>>>[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: > >>>>[ > >>>>[ To: majordomo@zilker.net > >>>>[ > >>>>[ unsubscribe sinclair > >>>>[ > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Jean Haddow > >>>[ > >>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. > >>>[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see > >>>[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > >>>[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the > body: > >>>[ info sinclair > >>>[ > >>>[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: > >>>[ > >>>[ To: majordomo@zilker.net > >>>[ > >>>[ unsubscribe sinclair > >>>[ > >> > >>[ > >>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. > >>[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see > >>[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > >>[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the > body: > >>[ info sinclair > >>[ > >>[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: > >>[ > >>[ To: majordomo@zilker.net > >>[ > >>[ unsubscribe sinclair > >>[ > >[ > >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. > >[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see > >[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > >[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the body: > >[ info sinclair > >[ > >[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: > >[ > >[ To: majordomo@zilker.net > >[ > >[ unsubscribe sinclair > >[ > > [ > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. > [ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see > [ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > [ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the body: > [ info sinclair > [ > [ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: > [ > [ To: majordomo@zilker.net > [ > [ unsubscribe sinclair > [ [ [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. 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