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Hi
Being a newbie with this digest, I hav noticed that the posts I am
receiving, are
repeated continuosly in the same email data...Is there a reason why?
Thanks for a reply, Tim

At 11:45 PM 10/4/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>
>sinclair-digest        Monday, October 4 1999        Volume 01 : Number 109
>
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 04:52:51 EDT
>From: INSLaird@cs.com
>Subject: What is a Laird? A fair question!
>
>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:49:45 -0700
>From: "DOTY_CARSTENSEN" <DOTY_CARSTENSEN@email.msn.com>
>Subject: Re: W T Laird's 1888 Letter on the Origin of the Laird's?
>
>WHAT IS A LAIRD?  I THOUGHT THIS WAS A SINCLAIR LIST?
>
>
>Dear Henderson/Sinclair Clansperson
>
>As GaryD suggests, please look at John Sinclair Quarterman's Website 
>"www.mids.org/sinclair/".  On the front page your will find a hyperlink 
>"Laird" which will take you through to a note from me that explains our link 
>to the Clan. 
>
>All Clans have "Septs", families with surnames distinct from the Clan name 
>but nonetheless closely associated.  Some families had to change their 
>surnames following the suppression of the Clans following the 1745
Rebellion. 
> Henderson is a Sept of the Clan Gunn (see 
>"http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/gunn.html", and the Gunns 
>have, as you say, always been closely associated with the Clan Sinclair.
The 
>Westford Knight in Connecticut, part of the evidence of Prince Henry 
>Sinclair's voyage to the New World, is thought to be Sir James Gunn.  The 
>Drumhead Pardon from Flodden was carried to Caithness by a Gunn drummer boy.
>
>The Septs of Sinclair include the surnames of Budge, Clyne, Lyall, Linklater 
>and Mason, and the Sinclairs as the main Clan of Caithness can count on the 
>support, as Gary says, of all the families of Caithness origin. This
includes 
>a small family of Lairds, also of Norse origin, overlooked until relatively 
>recently, whose whoms were on Sinclair land. There is a Laird Family 
>Association, to whom we also post, which shares knowledge specifically to 
>Lairds principally from the south of Scotland and Ireland, but it has little 
>knowledge of Caithness, which is where my family comes from.  In my website 
>(http://ourworld.cs.com/inslaird/) I explain the conventional sources and 
>what my family knows of its background. The Sinclair Discussion group is a 
>wonderful place to exchange and share information and recover lost history 
>and is the premier source of information on Caithness and our Norse roots.
 I 
>have found it of incredible help in developing an understanding of our
roots, 
>and I hope others will too, through the contributions of a very special and 
>well informed group of people.  The Sinclair Discussion Group has,
therefore, 
>become much more than a place to discuss the genealogy of those fortunate to 
>bear the family name Sinclair, though this remains the core of our identity.
>
>There is a tremendous renaissance taking place in the Sinclair Clan at 
>present.  Our Chief has set us all the task of preserving our heritage with 
>the Sinclair and Girnigoe Castles Trust.   And we are very proud, with our 
>Clan Chief, Malcolm Caithness's permission, to wear the Sinclair Tartan and 
>Badge, and look forward to participating in next year's Millennium Gathering 
>at his command.
>
>I hope I have explained the posting!
>
>Yours aye
>
>Iain Laird, a Sinclair Follower
>
>
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 01:55:49 -0700
>From: Gordon Holmes <lafleur@home.com>
>Subject: Re: History help group
>
>...And I would love to help by previewing...Gord
>Spirit One Email wrote:
>> 
>> Dear cousins,
>>     I am working hard on this Sinclair history.  You would never guess it
>> because you don't see much results yet on the Clan Sinclair web but that
>> will soon change, I hope.
>> 
>>     I was wondering whether there might be a few of you interested in
>> previewing some of my material before it goes on the web so that the kinks
>> and historical mistakes can be worked out before someone happens upon it
and
>> copies the mistakes prematurely.   This will benefit everyone I think, and
>> hopefully will be interesting to you.
>> Please communicate directly to me at Laurel@Spiritone.com
>> 
>>    Laurel Fechner
>> Historian Clan Sinclair USA
>> 
>> [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>> [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:48:06 EDT
>From: CMelahn@aol.com
>Subject: Missouri--Saloon Keeper Andrew L. Sinclair, 1890, St. Joseph
>
>Anyone link to this inn-keeper? St. Joseph, Missouri, 1890
>
>see listing at: http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/4017.htm
>
>search results:
>St. Joseph, Missouri City Directory, 1890
>Search Terms: SINCLAIR (4)
> 
>Results (4 combined matches)
> 
>
>Surname Given Name  Occupation  Business Address    Residence   Remarks     
>Page
>Beems   Charles     bartdr A. L. Sinclair           r ws 6th, bet Locust & 
>Messanie 70
>Drake   Edward R.   bartdr A. L. Sinclair       rms 1306 s 6th              
>164
>Moore   Alexander, col'd    porter A. L. Sinclair       r 427 n 19th     
     
>    355
>Sinclair    Andrew L.   saloon      1306 s 6th  rms 1316 s 6th              
>462
>Viewing records 1-4 of 4
>
>Andrew L. Sinclair and three employees: Charles Beems, Edward Drake, and 
>Alexander Moore.
>
>Database:
>Description:
>One of the largest cities in Missouri in the late 1800s, St. Joseph is 
>located in Buchanan County, across the Missouri River from Kansas. This 
>database is a transcription of a city directory originally published in
1890. 
>It provides the resident's name, occupation, and address. The page number 
>refers to the original work and is provided to aid the researcher in 
>obtaining additional information. Containing the names of nearly 20,800 
>persons, this can be a helpful database of those persons seeking ancestors 
>from western Missouri. 
>Extended Description:
>This directory can be used as a substitute for the missing 1890 Federal 
>Census. Copies of a particular record may be obtained for a small fee by 
>contacting Debra Graden, P.O. Box 281, Leavenworth, KS, 66048-0281. 
>Bibliography:
>Graden, Debra, ed. Hoye's City Directory of St. Joseph, Missouri, for 1890. 
>[database online] Orem, UT: Ancestry, Inc., 1999. Taken from: Hoye Company. 
>St. Joseph, Missouri City Directory, 1890. - : Hoye City Directory Company, 
>1890.  
>
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 23:50:27 +1000
>From: Jean <sinead@labyrinth.net.au>
>Subject: Re: W T Laird's 1888 Letter on the Origin of the Laird's?
>
>Doty,please do post your material where we can access it.  We know that we
>are descended from Christian  Henderson - Milamba has all the relevant
>material and that she married a Sinclair.  We are a whole network  not just
>one name.
>Sinead.At 12:46  3/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Good, then should I immediately add all of my HENDERSON's -  since the
>>HENDERSON's and the SINCLAIR's have been closely allied for centuries, we
>>are Clansmen.  I think it's fine to 'cross query' - I guess it's the 'cross
>>posting' I was questioning.  I wouldn't post a Henderson will or deed to the
>>Sinclair list but I'd feel free to discuss intermarriages and allegiances,
>>etc.  Sorry, to offend you.
>>SINCLAIR/HENDERSON CLANSPERSON
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>> 
>
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:28:43 -0500
>From: "John S. Quarterman" <jsq@mids.org>
>Subject: Re: What is a Laird? A fair question! 
>
>>WHAT IS A LAIRD?  I THOUGHT THIS WAS A SINCLAIR LIST?
>>
>>
>>Dear Henderson/Sinclair Clansperson
>>
>>As GaryD suggests, please look at John Sinclair Quarterman's Website 
>>"www.mids.org/sinclair/".
>
>Actually, he suggested the Clan Sinclair U.S.A. web pages, which you can
>find through the U.S. flag front and center in the URL you list above.
>
>Or select Groups in the left navbar, and you will find links to U.S.,
>plus Laird, plus Clan Gunn.
>
>>  On the front page your will find a hyperlink 
>>"Laird" which will take you through to a note from me that explains our
link 
>>to the Clan. 
>>
>>All Clans have "Septs", families with surnames distinct from the Clan name 
>>but nonetheless closely associated.  Some families had to change their 
>>surnames following the suppression of the Clans following the 1745
Rebellion. 
>> Henderson is a Sept of the Clan Gunn (see 
>>"http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/gunn.html",
>
>I've added that link to the three others already in the Clan Gunn page
>under Groups (see above).
>
>> and the Gunns 
>>have, as you say, always been closely associated with the Clan Sinclair.
The 
>>Westford Knight in Connecticut, part of the evidence of Prince Henry 
>>Sinclair's voyage to the New World, is thought to be Sir James Gunn.  The 
>>Drumhead Pardon from Flodden was carried to Caithness by a Gunn drummer boy.
>>
>>The Septs of Sinclair include the surnames of Budge, Clyne, Lyall,
Linklater 
>>and Mason, and the Sinclairs as the main Clan of Caithness can count on the 
>>support, as Gary says, of all the families of Caithness origin. This
includes 
>>a small family of Lairds, also of Norse origin, overlooked until relatively 
>>recently, whose whoms were on Sinclair land. There is a Laird Family 
>>Association, to whom we also post,
>
>The issue of crossposting to sinclair@mids.org has been raised.
>It's not a good idea as a regular practice.  However, it is occasionally
>appropriate for announcements of basic context with pointers to where
>else to look, and that seems to be what you have been crossposting,
>so I for one have no objection to your postings.
>
>> which shares knowledge specifically to 
>>Lairds principally from the south of Scotland and Ireland, but it has
little 
>>knowledge of Caithness, which is where my family comes from.  In my website 
>>(http://ourworld.cs.com/inslaird/) I explain the conventional sources and 
>>what my family knows of its background. The Sinclair Discussion group is a 
>>wonderful place to exchange and share information and recover lost history 
>>and is the premier source of information on Caithness and our Norse
roots.  I 
>>have found it of incredible help in developing an understanding of our
roots, 
>>and I hope others will too, through the contributions of a very special and 
>>well informed group of people.  The Sinclair Discussion Group has,
therefore, 
>>become much more than a place to discuss the genealogy of those fortunate
to 
>>bear the family name Sinclair, though this remains the core of our identity.
>
>The Sinclair Discussion List has never been limited solely to genealogy;
>look under Discussion List in http://www.mids.org/sinclair/ for its intro.
>(There have been requests for a genealogy-only Sinclair list, which does
>exist, courtesy of Gary M. Sinclair; look under Genealogy List.)
>
>>There is a tremendous renaissance taking place in the Sinclair Clan at 
>>present.  Our Chief has set us all the task of preserving our heritage with 
>>the Sinclair and Girnigoe Castles Trust.   And we are very proud, with our 
>>Clan Chief, Malcolm Caithness's permission, to wear the Sinclair Tartan and 
>>Badge, and look forward to participating in next year's Millennium
Gathering 
>>at his command.
>>
>>I hope I have explained the posting!
>>
>>Yours aye
>>
>>Iain Laird, a Sinclair Follower
>
>John Sinclair Quarterman <jsq@mids.org>, list maintainer, sinclair@mids.org
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:12:47 EDT
>From: Artwench@aol.com
>Subject: Sinclair Tobacco/Newcastle
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>Im new to the list and am hoping that I am following protocol correctly in 
>posting my geneological query here.
>
>I'm searching for any information on the John Sinclair (1826-1895) that
moved 
>from somewhere in Scotland to Newcastle-on-Tyne in the mid 1800's.  His 
>father was Robert, he perhaps had a brother called Robert, his wife was 
>Margaret(1840-1905), and he had around a dozen children, some of whom had 
>each of the above names also.  He started the John Sinclair Ltd. Tobacco 
>company in Newcastle which was sold by his son/sons in 1920.
>
>Any information that anyone might have on these Sinclair's would be greatly 
>appreciated!  Meantime, I love this list--thanks to those responsible for 
>providing it.
>
>Nicola Sinclair,
>Boston, Ma  USA
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:38:07 -0700
>From: "Jean Grigsby" <jgrigsby@bcni.net>
>Subject: Re: History help group
>
>Laural,
>I would be happy to help you but we will be going to California for two
>months of cancer treatments for Bill - just learned of his cancer in the
>past several weeks.
>
>If you would be willing to wait til I am home again, let me know.
>Once errors are made they may never get corrected to everyone.  I know
>because I am still trying to locate everyone to correct some of my earlier
>work.
>Jean Grigsby
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: Spirit One Email <laurel@spiritone.com>
>To: Sinclair Discussion <sinclair@mids.org>
>Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 8:36 PM
>Subject: History help group
>
>
>>Dear cousins,
>>    I am working hard on this Sinclair history.  You would never guess it
>>because you don't see much results yet on the Clan Sinclair web but that
>>will soon change, I hope.
>>
>>    I was wondering whether there might be a few of you interested in
>>previewing some of my material before it goes on the web so that the kinks
>>and historical mistakes can be worked out before someone happens upon it
>and
>>copies the mistakes prematurely.   This will benefit everyone I think, and
>>hopefully will be interesting to you.
>>Please communicate directly to me at Laurel@Spiritone.com
>>
>>   Laurel Fechner
>>Historian Clan Sinclair USA
>>
>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:11:20 -0700
>From: "Jim & Pam Yokers" <yokers@prodigy.net>
>Subject: Re: History help group
>
>Jean,
>Sorry to hear about your husband's illness.  Hope everything goes okay for
>you both!  You didn't mention where in California you age going, but if it
>is in Southern California, especially the LA area, maybe we could meet
>sometime.  We live in northern LA county, just north of the San Fernando
>Valley.  If you want to, please give me a call.
>
>Sincerely,
>Pam Yokers
>Castaic, CA
>(661) 295-8343
>yokers@prodigy.net
>- -----Original Message-----
>From: Jean Grigsby <jgrigsby@bcni.net>
>To: sinclair@mids.org <sinclair@mids.org>
>Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 11:55 AM
>Subject: Re: History help group
>
>
>>Laural,
>>I would be happy to help you but we will be going to California for two
>>months of cancer treatments for Bill - just learned of his cancer in the
>>past several weeks.
>>
>>If you would be willing to wait til I am home again, let me know.
>>Once errors are made they may never get corrected to everyone.  I know
>>because I am still trying to locate everyone to correct some of my earlier
>>work.
>>Jean Grigsby
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Spirit One Email <laurel@spiritone.com>
>>To: Sinclair Discussion <sinclair@mids.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 8:36 PM
>>Subject: History help group
>>
>>
>>>Dear cousins,
>>>    I am working hard on this Sinclair history.  You would never guess it
>>>because you don't see much results yet on the Clan Sinclair web but that
>>>will soon change, I hope.
>>>
>>>    I was wondering whether there might be a few of you interested in
>>>previewing some of my material before it goes on the web so that the kinks
>>>and historical mistakes can be worked out before someone happens upon it
>>and
>>>copies the mistakes prematurely.   This will benefit everyone I think, and
>>>hopefully will be interesting to you.
>>>Please communicate directly to me at Laurel@Spiritone.com
>>>
>>>   Laurel Fechner
>>>Historian Clan Sinclair USA
>>>
>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>>>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>>
>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 20:41:35 +0100
>From: Niven Sinclair <niven@niven.co.uk>
>Subject: Lairds
>
>If we look at the names of those who have contributed most to the Sinclair 
>cause,
>you will find few Sinclairs but a great many paragenetic Sinclairs.
>
>It may be folly to begin naming them but can we begin with the late Jim 
>Whittall and
>Pete Cummings?
>
>And go on to our ex-President (Bouschor) and our present President
(Barker) and
>our genealogist (Server) and our Clan historian (Fechner) and our great 
>educationist
>(Fowler) and that great Clan stalwart, Jean Grigsby and the hundreds of 
>others who
>man Sinclair tents in every State of America and every Province of Canada.
>
>We owe them a great debt just as we owe you John Sinclair Quarterman a big
>thank you for your patience, perseverance and persistence.
>
>And, as for the Lairds, they have done us proud with their presence and
support
>in Caithness and in Norway.
>
>We would all be weaker without the involvement of such people.  They are 
>more than
>kin.  They are friends.  My friends.  Your friends.  Our friends.
>
>Let us welcome them as such.
>Let us also thank God that we have such people on our side.
>Let us be worthy of THEM.
>
>Niven Sinclair
>
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:29:12 EDT
>From: R326McD@aol.com
>Subject: Re: Lairds
>
>Niven,
>    What a pleasure (and a treasure) to have you for a friend (on this List, 
>anyhow, if not in person)!  Your wording in messages says it all for most of 
>us; thank you.
>    Your contributions to the List are always informative, interesting, and 
>"keep us all on an even keel".
>    Glad your knee problem is progressing well; you have sunny thoughts 
>coming to you from Florida.
>    Rebecca
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:48:34 +0100
>From: Niven Sinclair <niven@niven.co.uk>
>Subject: Lairds
>
>If we look at the names of those who have contributed most to the Sinclair 
>cause,
>you will find few Sinclairs but a great many paragenetic Sinclairs.
>
>It may be folly to begin naming them but can we begin with the late Jim 
>Whittall and
>Pete Cummings?
>
>And go on to our ex-President (Bouschor) and our present President
(Barker) and
>our genealogist (Server) and our Clan historian (Fechner) and our great 
>educationist
>(Fowler) and that great Clan stalwart, Jean Grigsby and the hundreds of 
>others who
>man Sinclair tents in every State of America and every Province of Canada.
>
>We owe them a great debt just as we owe you John Sinclair Quarterman a big
>thank you for your patience, perseverance and persistence.
>
>And, as for the Lairds, they have done us proud with their presence and
support
>in Caithness and in Norway.
>
>We would all be weaker without the involvement of such people.  They are 
>more than
>kin.  They are friends.  My friends.  Your friends.  Our friends.
>
>Let us welcome them as such.
>Let us also thank God that we have such people on our side.
>Let us be worthy of THEM.
>
>Niven Sinclair
>
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:53:43 -0500
>From: "John S. Quarterman" <jsq@mids.org>
>Subject: Re: Lairds 
>
>Niven,
>
>>If we look at the names of those who have contributed most to the Sinclair 
>>cause, you will find few Sinclairs but a great many paragenetic Sinclairs.
>
>For some time I've been wondering what you mean by paragenetic Sinclairs.
>This posting I think clarifies it: you mean people whose surname is not
>Sinclair (or St. Clair or Sinkler or other spelling) but who are nonetheless
>related to Sinclairs somehow.  Correct me if I've got that wrong.
>
>I agree completely with everything you said in your message.
>
>It seems to me that there may be some confusion going on because of two
>different interpretations of the word "crossposting".
>
>When I say crossposting I am referring to sending an electronic mail message
>to two different mailing lists at the same time.  This is a well-known
>complication of mailing lists that can lead to poor performance of the
>lists involved, for a variety of reasons including confusion about where
>to send responses.  That is what I want to discourage except in exceptional
>cases such as announcements of new features, where to find more information,
>and the like.
>
>Some other people seem to say crossposting and mean posting messages to
>the Sinclair discussion list that is about people with other surnames.
>We want to encourage messages related to Sinclairs regardless of whether
>the specific people mentioned have the surname Sinclair or not.
>There never has been any prohibition on that that I'm aware of; we've
>all been doing it for years.  People marry and sometimes change their
>names for other reasons.  People associate for reasons other than
>simple ancestry: work, geography, religion, scholarship, fun, whatever.
>Frequently it's difficult to find ones own patronymic ancestors without
>looking at what their neighbors and cousins did and were.  For example,
>how could anyone understand Sinclairs in the early 14th century without
>mentioning Bruce and Wallace?  For that matter, we've discussed quite a
>bit of ancestry from back before surnames were used.  And, as you point
>out, most of the people on this list (at least the ones who post the
>most) do not have surnames Sinclair, St. Clair, etc.  Actual
>genealogical and historical connections of families aren't neatly
>organized solely by surname.
>
>The introduction to the list says:
> It is a mailing list for the extended Sinclair family.
> All relatives of the Sinclair family, including those
> with surnames spelled St. Clair, Sinkler, and
> other related families throughout the world
> are invited to participate.
>
>The clause "other related families" was intended to make this clear.
>Apparently it isn't clear enough.  I think I'll rephrase it as
> other related families and people throughout the world,
> regardless of their surnames,
>
>Suggestions?
>
>Ah, here's an idea: how about if I append your message, Niven,
>to the Genealogy page and add a link to it from the list intro page?
>
>John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org>
>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:17:19 -0700
>From: Myra Perala <mperala@teleport.com>
>Subject: Re: Niven and acknowledging others 
>
>When I read your uplifting words, Niven, I'm always thrilled to know that a
>person of your stature could really be a direct relative of mine.  What a
>pleasure to acknowledge honor, friendship, loyalty, and respect in others.
>
>Myra Perala
>Portland, OR
>
>
>At 09:48 PM 10/4/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>If we look at the names of those who have contributed most to the Sinclair 
>>cause,
>>you will find few Sinclairs but a great many paragenetic Sinclairs.
>>
>>It may be folly to begin naming them but can we begin with the late Jim 
>>Whittall and
>>Pete Cummings?
>>
>>And go on to our ex-President (Bouschor) and our present President
>(Barker) and
>>our genealogist (Server) and our Clan historian (Fechner) and our great 
>>educationist
>>(Fowler) and that great Clan stalwart, Jean Grigsby and the hundreds of 
>>others who
>>man Sinclair tents in every State of America and every Province of Canada.
>>
>>We owe them a great debt just as we owe you John Sinclair Quarterman a big
>>thank you for your patience, perseverance and persistence.
>>
>>And, as for the Lairds, they have done us proud with their presence and
>support
>>in Caithness and in Norway.
>>
>>We would all be weaker without the involvement of such people.  They are 
>>more than
>>kin.  They are friends.  My friends.  Your friends.  Our friends.
>>
>>Let us welcome them as such.
>>Let us also thank God that we have such people on our side.
>>Let us be worthy of THEM.
>>
>>Niven Sinclair
>>
>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>>
>>
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>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:33:12 EDT
>From: Plumpett@aol.com
>Subject: Re: Lairds
>
>Niven --
>
>Your sentiments were very appropriate and eloquently stated !
>
>I applaud you for the focus on what one can contribute to our history and
the 
>understanding of our shared past and the contributions of those of Sinclair 
>descent 
>but bearing other surnames .
>
>Joe Greigg 
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>Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 09:14:04 +1000
>From: milamba <milamba@milamba.com>
>Subject: Re: History help group
>
>Hi Laurel,
>
>I'd be more than willing to help! Let me know what I can do...
>
>Margaret
>
>
>At 08:36 PM 03/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Dear cousins,
>>     I am working hard on this Sinclair history.  You would never guess it
>>because you don't see much results yet on the Clan Sinclair web but that
>>will soon change, I hope.
>>
>>     I was wondering whether there might be a few of you interested in
>>previewing some of my material before it goes on the web so that the kinks
>>and historical mistakes can be worked out before someone happens upon it and
>>copies the mistakes prematurely.   This will benefit everyone I think, and
>>hopefully will be interesting to you.
>>Please communicate directly to me at Laurel@Spiritone.com
>>
>>    Laurel Fechner
>>Historian Clan Sinclair USA
>>
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>Date: 4 Oct 1999 16:43:58 -0700
>From: "Spirit One Email" <laurel@spiritone.com>
>Subject: Re: History help group
>
>Margaret,
>    I received 3 identical messages like this from you.  Does something need
>to be fixed?
>Laurel
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: milamba <milamba@milamba.com>
>To: <Laurel@spiritone.com>
>Cc: <sinclair@mids.org>
>Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 4:14 PM
>Subject: Re: History help group
>
>
>> Hi Laurel,
>>
>> I'd be more than willing to help! Let me know what I can do...
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>> At 08:36 PM 03/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Dear cousins,
>> >     I am working hard on this Sinclair history.  You would never guess
>it
>> >because you don't see much results yet on the Clan Sinclair web but that
>> >will soon change, I hope.
>> >
>> >     I was wondering whether there might be a few of you interested in
>> >previewing some of my material before it goes on the web so that the
>kinks
>> >and historical mistakes can be worked out before someone happens upon it
>and
>> >copies the mistakes prematurely.   This will benefit everyone I think,
>and
>> >hopefully will be interesting to you.
>> >Please communicate directly to me at Laurel@Spiritone.com
>> >
>> >    Laurel Fechner
>> >Historian Clan Sinclair USA
>> >
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>> >[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>>
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>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:12:01 EDT
>From: DSinc39156@aol.com
>Subject: Re: Lairds
>
>Niven, once again you have brought a smile to my face. I doubt if you 
>remenber this but, I wrote a letter to Ian Sutherland of Wick, asking a 
>question about the Sinclair family from Hempriggs House. Mr. Sutherland sent 
>the letter to our friend, Ian Sinclair, who then sent it to you. You in turn 
>sent it to Ian Laird. It was Ian Laird who was able to answer my questions. 
>As it turns out, there were also Lairds who hailed from Hempriggs. Ian Laird 
>is as much part of our family as I am.
>Donald Sinclair (Indianapolis)
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>Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:19:00 +1000
>From: milamba <milamba@milamba.com>
>Subject: Re: History help group
>
>Laurel,
>
>Oh good - you are getting my mail!! :) No, nothing needs to be fixed - I 
>just cc'd it to the lists since everyone seemed to be replying on there!
>
>Margaret :):)
>
>At 04:43 PM 04/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Margaret,
>>     I received 3 identical messages like this from you.  Does something
need
>>to be fixed?
>>Laurel
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: milamba <milamba@milamba.com>
>>To: <Laurel@spiritone.com>
>>Cc: <sinclair@mids.org>
>>Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 4:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: History help group
>>
>>
>> > Hi Laurel,
>> >
>> > I'd be more than willing to help! Let me know what I can do...
>> >
>> > Margaret
>> >
>> >
>> > At 08:36 PM 03/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> > >Dear cousins,
>> > >     I am working hard on this Sinclair history.  You would never guess
>>it
>> > >because you don't see much results yet on the Clan Sinclair web but that
>> > >will soon change, I hope.
>> > >
>> > >     I was wondering whether there might be a few of you interested in
>> > >previewing some of my material before it goes on the web so that the
>>kinks
>> > >and historical mistakes can be worked out before someone happens upon it
>>and
>> > >copies the mistakes prematurely.   This will benefit everyone I think,
>>and
>> > >hopefully will be interesting to you.
>> > >Please communicate directly to me at Laurel@Spiritone.com
>> > >
>> > >    Laurel Fechner
>> > >Historian Clan Sinclair USA
>> > >
>> > >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org
>> > >[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>> >
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