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Re: letters re. "skull and bones" and "flake"
I think I am the other Jean you are referring to, and I use my Given name
sometimes and Sinead sometimes, so I will try to remember to be Sinead
full time on the list. Milamba (my daughter) and I seem to upset people
also and you don't need that either.
It is easier to use a single term/ name/ typing furiously so willl
We are Australian so we sit back and chuckle at the election stories and
console our Brother in law who, as an Air Traffic Controller was forced
to leave America to survive in his job. I believe President Reagan had
something to do with that, but as we tell him, it was a gain for us and
our sister-in -law.
Any way, I usually enjoy looking at your material. I leave the
geneological research to Milamba
If you everdecide to take advantage of the dollar advantage to take a
trip, give us acll in Melbourne. It is in the Southern part of Australia,
and about 500k or so from Sydney.
09:54 AM 23/11/00 -0800, you wrote:
someone submitted some info on a college organization named Skull &
Bones started by a bunch of college boys apparently, among whom was the
grandfather of George W. Bush. This person did not educate us but
left enough innuendos to rather upset me as I (as an independent) did
vote for George W. As I am an avid reader and feel pretty well
educated, I made an attempt to find out what I could.
I finally accidentally found the answer while
sitting in a beauty salon - an article in the NATIONAL INQUIRER. I
failed to copy the date but would suspect it was a very recent one since
it certainly never came out until this election mess, but it was the
article following the world shaking article, "I was Arrested for
Snoring on a Bus".
May I suggest that if anyone is going to share
world shaking news with others to please always list your source so that
others can verify and not rush to judgment which I could well have done
had I mentioned this "news" to anyone else.
By the way, having been to college, had a
daughter who went to college and am now sweating the grandson in college,
I would not advise anyone to judge any man or woman by what they did in
college. My grandson called me to say he has now removed his
earring because he really doesn't need it anymore and it is a
hassel. I almost fell out of my chair laughing and responded that
what he really meant is that he is now a junior and doesn't really feel
the need to shock everyone in the family.
My great- nephew just got out of the Marine
Corps and has the FIRST tatoo in our genealogy back to 1698. I
consoled his father by saying that at least it is where a shirt sleeve
will cover it when he doesn't want it anymore. The point is every
mother out there has a similar story and thank God they will never appear
in The Inquirer unless they should enter politics. Not that might
make me leave them out of the family history!
Now, speaking of skulls and to get back to the
Sinclairs, - There was a Sinclair grave desecrated and the entire
skeleton placed for public display (no, not by college kids but by a
grown up, middle aged doctor who was "curious".) After
his death the skeleton was reburied - without the skull. If anyone
knows the whereabouts of this skull, please let me know as it is one of
my unpublished familiy mysteries and the unfortunate man did leave
A note to Tim Wallace-Murphy if he has not been
kicked off the site for expressing his opinion.
I do not know enough about ancient history to
either agree or disagree with you. However, I did enjoy reading
your letter which was well written and gave us your view of the subject
and the word "flakey" did not offend me as it was unimportant
and was what any elementary teacher will tell you - a word that can be
ingested by inference. Since I was reading for education and the word
"flaky" had no meaning in that context, I did not even realize
you had used it until the "hullabaloo" following. It
reminded me of a college professor who was having coffee with me and
other professors in the faculty lounge when he referred to one of his
students as "a flake". The entire lounge became dead
silent as they all knew he was referring to my daughter who was going
through a horrendous divorce and at the same time going back to complete
college as the first step to supporting herself and two children. I
just laughed and told him to "watch it, that's my daughter you're
talking about and I have the same gene pool". Everyone laughed
and I then explained to him (it was his first year) about her stress at
the moment. By the way, the flake did graduate from A & M and
very happily remarried after 11 years. And more importantly, I am
still on very good terms with that professor. We grin every time we
see each other and we both are thinking the work "flake" but it
has never been broached again!
I, too, made a statement on this list last year
hoping to reach someone without confrontation. Apparently another
little group thought I was referring to them (if the shoe fits, wear it?)
and I received the one and only hate letter I have ever received in my
life. It was not ugly, it was vicious. Since you were
attacked publicly, I would like to state to everyone that if we cannot as
educated people disagree on this site without a group jumping in to their
relative's aid, and you decide to kick him off the site if you haven't
already, please kick me off also.
I thought long and hard before I typed this as
I have no desire to receive another hate letter. If that person
feels the need to repeat last year's attack re. me minding my own
business, causing dissention, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. I respectfully ask
that you direct it to the site rather than to me personally.
A small thing but since there are apparently
others with the same first name on the site, it might help to always add
your surname to assure that you don't get credit or blame for someone
Have a wonderful Thanksgiving Day and please
get back to history and genealogy.