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Re: Steven Sora also says No Gunns On Oak Island
At 20:37 16/10/00 -0300, you wrote:
From: Master Who
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 9:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [priory-of-sion] No Gunns On Oak Island
My last e-mail was returned 'undelivered' so I'm attaching my reply to
your e-mail to
Dave in order that you can obtain it - albeit indirectly. Which of
your many addresses
should I be using?
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:23:59 +0100
From: Niven Sinclair <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: The Lay of the Last Minstrel of which the Dirge of Rosabelle
is part by Sir Walter Scott.
"The Last Rosslyn" says Sir Walter Scott (for he was
universally known by his patrimonial
designation and would probably have considered it an insult to be called
Mr Sinclair) "was a
man considerably above six feet with dark grey locks, a form upright, but
gracefully so, thin-
flanked and broad-shouldered, built, it would seem, for the business of
war or for the chase,
of noble eye, of chastened pride and undoubted authority and features
handsome and striking
in their general effect, although somewhat harsh and exaggerated when
considered in detail.
His complexion was dark and grizzled and, as we schoolboys, who crowded
to see him perform
feats of strength and skill in the old Scottish games of golf and
archery*, used to think and say
amongst ourselves, the whole figure resembled the famous founder of the
* At the material time, "golf" and "archery" were
confined to certain groups of people and were
even described as 'secret societies'. Some golf clubs still have this
method of selecting their
Sir William was the hereditary Grand Master of the Guilds and Crafts of
Scotland but resigned this position
in order to allow for an election of a Grandmaster
The representatives of the Crafts and Guilds of Scotland met to consider
Sir William Sinclair's "Deed
of Resignation" which had ben signed in Edinburgh on 24th November,
The meeting was convened on 30th November, 1736 and unanimously elected
Sir William Sinclair of
Rosslyn to be their Grandmaster in the Scottish Grand Lodge of
The Sinclairs were deemed to have the "Judgment of Solomon".
Their word was final when any
disputes arose. They sat at Canongate Kilwinning, a Lodge in
As Sir William had no son to succeed him, the Estate passed to Major
General Sir James St Clair
of Ravenscraig who also died without male issue so the lands eventually
passed to the Erskines
who added St Clair to their name to become the St Clair Erskines who own
Rosslyn to this day.
** It is not surprising that the schoolboys likened Sir William to the
Douglases because the
Douglases and the Sinclairs were inextricably interwoven. Indeed, Earl
William Sinclair's marriage
to a Douglas had been annulled on the grounds of consanguinity but it was
re-instated when he
paid the Pope 4,000 English florins - thus legitimising his children. His
father had also married
a Douglas. Similarily, we find Beatrix Sinclair marrying the Earl of
Douglas. She was eventually
known as the "Mother of Earls" because no fewer than five of
her children became Earls. No
wonder successive Kings did their best to limit the power of the
Sinclairs and the Douglases
because, between them, they could make or break a king. Earl William
Sinclair was eventually
required to divide his Estate into three. This eventually gave rise to
the Sinclairs of Orkney, the Sinclairs
of Caithness, the Sinclairs of Rosslyn, the Sinclairs of Ravenscraig and
the Sinclairs of
Hermanston and these groups were further sub-divided into Baronies.
"The Dirge of Rosabelle"
"O listen! listen ladies gay
No haughty feat of arms I tell;
Sift is the note, and sad the lay,
That mourns the lovely Rosabelle.
"Moor, moor the barge, ye gallant crew!
And, gentle lady, deign to stay!
Rest thee in Castle Ravensheuch
Nor tempt the stormy firth today.
"The blackening wave is edged with white;
To inch and rock the sea-mews fly;
The fishers have heard the Water-Sprite,
Whose screams forbode that wreck is nigh.
"Last night the gifted Seer did view
A wet shroud swathed around ladye gay;
Then stay thee, Fair, in Ravensheuch;
Why cross the gloomy firth today?
"'Tis not because Lord Lindesay's heir
Tonight at Roslin leads the ball,
But that my ladye-mother there
Sits lonely in her Castle-hall.
"'Tis not because the ring they ride,
And Lindesay at the ring rides well;
But that my sire the wine will chide
If 'tis not filled by Rosabelle.
"O'er Roslin all that dreary night
A wondrous blaze was seen to gleam;
'Twas broader than the watch fire's light
And redder than the bright moon-beam.
"It glared on Roslin's castled rock,
It ruddied all the copse-wood glen;
Twas seen from Dryden's groves of oak,
And seen from caverned Hawthornden.
"Seemed all on fire that chapel proud,
Where Roslin's chiefs uncoffined lie,
Each baron, for a sable shroud
Sheathed in his iron panoply.
"Seemed all on fire, within, around,
Deep sacristy and altar's pale;
Shone very pillar foliage bound,
And glimmered all the dead men's mail.
"Blazed battlement and pinnet high
Blazed every rose-carved buttress fair -
So still they blaze, when fate is nigh
The lordly line of high St.Clair.
"There are twenty of Roslin's barons bold
Lie buried within that proud chapelle
Each one the holy vault does hold -
But the sea holds lovely Rosabelle!
"And each Saint Clair was buried there,
With candle, with book, and with knell;
But the sea-caves rung, and the wild winds
The dirge of lovely Rosabelle".
Perhaps, a few of the terms require explaining for overseas
Inch = island
Knell = the sound of a bell being rung at a funeral
Mew = any sea gull especially the common gull
Dirge = a lamentation for the dead
Sprite = a nimble elf-like creature, especially one associated with water
| Seer = a person who can supposedly see into the future
Pinnet = a small flag or standard, an ensign, a streamer.
Ravensheuch is an early name for Ravenscraig. A heuch is a
precipice, crag or cliff
which is essentially the same as craig
Hawthornden is adjacent to Rosslyn and was the home of William
the Scottish poet who wrote, like Burns, in Lowland Scots.
Dryden was the home of Sir Patrick Sinclair who was a confidant of Henry
VIII - so much
so that, when they were in conference, Cardinal Wolsey was required
leave the King's chamber. Dryden is also adjacent to Rosslyn.
Today, Roslin is only used as the name of the village. Rosslyn is the
spelling used for
the Chapel, the Castle and the Earldom. In Scott's time, Roslin was
to describe them all.
If I have omitted any term which requires elucidation, I will be happy to
consult my Scots Thesaurus.
As some of this information may be of more general interest, I am taking
the opportunity of copying it to the
Rob Cohn wrote:
> Just spoke with Dan
Blenkenship who is Oak Island...he said that
no item of
> anything bearing anything remotely resembling a shield, a Gunn Clan
> or otherwise, is, or was ever discovered on his part of the
> to the best of his knowledge, nothing of the like has ever been
> Fred Nowlan's section .
I contacted Steven Sora and asked about the shield , here is his reply
"The photo in my book attributes the effigy of Gunn and shield to
Island which was a mistake that (hopefully) is corrected in the
printing. (My text was correct) The shield was found in Westford,
Massachusetts in or around 1940. No one knew what is was until a
Goodwin poured wet chalk into the carving and was able to see the
design. In 1950 a TC Lethbridge (from the UK) corresponded with
other experts including one whose field was heraldry. The effigy
Yes , Virginia there is no Gunn shield on Oak Island .
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