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Re: Sinclair Dates & Appreciation



Dear Neil:
I was leaving the field open to Niven but as he seems otherwise occupied, I
will repeat what I got from him but have seen from no other source (not that
I have specifically looked).  The engrailed cross, at least in sable (black)
has been with the Sinclairs a long time.  Niven told me, and I hope I
remember correctly, that we Sinclairs obtained  the "ragged cross" after
William "The Seemly" St. Clair accompanied St. Margaret (later wife of
Malcolm Canmore) to Hungary from which she returned with a piece of the true
cross which was later enshrined in "Holyrood" (Rood = tree in old english, a
version of which was the language spoken in Lowland Scotland  at the time)
to Hungary circa 1057.
It may be true that a "croix pattee" or templar cross can be made by taking
the very centre of an egrailed cross up to the first 'scallop' away from the
whole but if the above be true re: William the Seemly,  then the croix
pattee is an anachronism insofar as the Crusades and hence the Templars came
appx. 50 years later.

I'd like to get to the bottom of this myself.
Aye,
Rory


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Sinclair/Peggy Rintoul <rinsin@globalserve.net>
To: sinclair@matrix.net <sinclair@matrix.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Sinclair Dates & Appreciation


>Dear John;
>Everyday I think of you, and in a most positive way to be sure. When you
>share the important dates in history we are connected this day with all
>those days that have gone before, linking the past and present in a
>contextual way. Today I note the anniversary of Robert Bruces death, so
>intimately tied into the family heritage. I applaud you for again quietly
>and persistently keeping the shared interests moving forward in a positive
>direction. Now as for the granting of the Sinclair shield and heraldic
>symbols ...anyone???
>Neil Sinclair
>Toronto/PEI/Forever Argyll
>.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John S. Quarterman" <jsq@matrix.net>
>To: <sinclair@matrix.net>
>Sent: 7 June, 2000 3:19 AM
>Subject: Sinclair Dates
>
>
>>
>>    [1]Sinclair Dates:  June 7.
>>    In 1329: Robert I the Bruce d., King of Scots dies.
>>    [2]Tomorrow:  June 8.
>>    In 1376: Edward III d.,
>>    [3]King of England dies.
>>    In 1329: David II, King of Scots
>>    In 1042: Harthacnut end,
>>    [4]King of England ends reign
>>    In 793: Vikings sack Lindisfarne, Beginning of the Viking Age.
>>
>> References
>>
>>    1. http://www.mids.org/sinclair/timeline.html
>>    2. http://www.mids.org/sinclair/timeline.html
>>    3. http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/TIME1.html
>>    4. http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/TIME1.html
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