Re: Patrick Sinclair of Fort Michillimackinac

[milamba <milamba@milamba.com>]

Hi Jenny,

The William I was looking at had a brother John born in 1825, but in 
Latheron.  No mother is mentioned.  I'll hunt a little further for you if 
you'd like.

And yes, Lyall is a Sept of Clan Sinclair.

Regards
Margaret


At 06:49 AM 01/03/2000 , you wrote:
>Dear Margaret,
>
>Do you know any more about the people you mentioned. I think William may 
>have had a brother John. On William's death certificate it says that JAmes 
>would have been a farmer. William was either born in 1822 or 1823 in Wick.
>
>William married in wick, in 1850 to Barbara Lyall - that is a sept of 
>Sinclair is it not?
>Her parents were Henry Lyall and Janet Sinclair.
>
>Jenny
>
>
>>From: Margaret Stokes <milamba@labyrinth.net.au>
>>Reply-To: sinclair@mids.org
>>To: sinclair@mids.org
>>Subject: Re: Patrick Sinclair of Fort Michillimackinac
>>Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:14:39 +1100
>>
>>Hi Jenny,
>>
>>There was a James Sinclair that married Margaret McKay on 14 March 1822 at
>>Latheron
>>and a William Sinclair christened Feb 1823 to a James Sinclair of that
>>area... Could that be them?
>>
>>Margaret
>>
>>
>>At 08:08 AM 29/02/2000 , you wrote:
>>>Dear Niven,
>>>
>>>You haven't heard of James and Margaret Sinclair about 1800 ish in that
>>>line have you.
>>>I am struggling to connect them and their son William Sinclair born about
>>>1822, wick , scotland, to any line at all.
>>>Just an over hopeful querry, i would love to connect them up somewhere and
>>>my nana used to mention the castle of Mey a great deal.
>>>Jenny :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Ulbster family are descended from WiIliam Sinclair, the first laird of
>>>>Mey (where the
>>>>Queen Mother now lives) who was the second son of George II, the 42nd Earl
>>>>of Caithness.
>>>>His elder brother John was said to have been imprisoned by his father in
>>>>Girnigoe castle
>>>>and was said to have been crushed to death by a visit of the Master in
>>>>1572.  I have never
>>>>believed this story which was spread by the Gordons.
>>>>
>>>>The Ulbsters have always been known as the "able Ulbsters" because they
>>>>have displayed
>>>>much academic success - a trait which is usually absent
>>>>from  Sinclairs.  The unifying
>>>>characteristic is bad temper (as you have already noted and as these
>>>>columns have
>>>>occasionally witnessed).
>>>>
>>>>At one time the Ulbsters were the largest Sinclair landowners in Caithness
>>>>(when 80% of
>>>>Caithness was owned by 17 Sinclair families) but death duties have eroded
>>>>their wealth
>>>>until it is now doubtful if Sinclairs own even 1% of
>>>>Caithness   Similarily, we are no longer
>>>>the most common surname.  That claim, according to the last census, goes to
>>>>the McKays.
>>>>
>>>>Niven Sinclair
>>>
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