Re: Re : Re the date of St. Clare"s death

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This should read the Two hundred and seventy eight men
----- Original Message -----
From: Niven Sinclair <niven@niven.co.uk>
To: <sinclair@jump.net>
Cc: <sinclair@mindspring.com>; Ian Sinclair - Manchester
<iansinclair@nosshead.freeserve.co.uk>; <jsq@mids.org>;
<laurel@spiritone.com>; <Selvermj@aol.com>
Sent: 06 June 1999 20:01
Subject: Re: Re : Re the date of St. Clare"s death


>
> At 05:15 06/06/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >I photed the date I don't remember it but I do have a date for you once
the
> >photos are returned. The Mayor is sending me the name and correspondence
> >from the Americans.  His English is not good, thankfully I had, God rest
her
> >soul, a French mother nee Jaquelin Jacquet D'Orleans.
> >
> >La Behottiere is a celebrated place in France Charles Ritz the hotellier
> >wrote about it in his book "A Fly Fisher Life".  Erwin Rommel lived in
the
> >house before his sucide in Berlin. I was invited for this and certian
> >British considerations to participate in carrying the Saint's remains.  I
> >have drunk from the waters of the Holy well. I have touched the rock upon
> >which St Clair was beheaded and I have given my hand and yours to M.
> >Destouches, Mayor St Clair sur Epte.
> >" My castles are my King's alone from turret to foundation stone but the
> >hand of Sinclair is his alone"
> >
> >Today is a fete in France.  D-Day.
> >
> >For my Canadians cousins I came back to London via Dieppe the monument to
> >the Hamilton Light Infantry stand proudly on the Beach and states if you
> >will excuse my translation "To the two hundred officers and men of the
> >Hamilton Light Infantry  who died crossings the beach and esplade so that
we
> >may live free"
> >
> >The matches for fire lighting now in Normandie have the statement on them
my
> >translation "With eternal thanks for the unique military genius of the
> >Allied forces who landed on our beaches and gave us what France treasures
> >most our Freedom" the boxes bear British, American and Canadian flags"
> >
> >St Clair sur Epte is not in Normandy it is in the Isle de France
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org>
> >To: <sinclair@jump.net>
> >Sent: 05 June 1999 21:36
> >Subject: Re: Re : Re the date of St. Clare"s death
> >
> >I am forwarding the story of Clair's death (later St Clare or Claire) to
> John Quarterman who
> may wish to include parts of it on a web page.
>
> Briefly. Clair was born in Kent in England of a noble family and,
> naturally, his father wished
> him to marry a rich heiress who lived close by. She, being aware of
Clair's
> austere and celibate life, used all her femine charms to try to seduce the
> young man.  She failed miserably.  Being rich and accustomed to getting
her
> own way, her love turned to hatred.
> She swore to revenge herself on this hapless young man.
>
> Clair's only hope in escaping the murderous intentions of this female was
> to seek refuge on the Continent.  He landed in Neustria (now known as
> Normandy ) where he lived as a hermit.
> His faame as a healer began to atttract attention and, although he moved
> his hut from place
> to place within the forest, it became the focus of attention for people
> seeking cures.
>
> Clair's abrupt departure from England further inflamed the  rich heiress
> who sent her agents
> to France with instrctions to find and kill him.
>
> On the 4th November, in the year of our Lord 884, they found Clair in his
> simple hut on the
> edge of the River Epte.   His end was swift because one of the agents
> beheaded Clair whilst
> he knelt in prayer.  (That is why he is frequently depicted, like St
Denis,
> holding his head in his hands).  The blood flowed copiously from his neck
> but a new spring came out of the ground and washed away all signes of it.
>
> The manner of Clair's death increased his renoqn.  The simple hut was
> transformed into a
> Chapel and eventually a Church was built on the spot.  ten years after the
> murder enough
> houses were built at the spot to establish a village which was named, St
> Clair, after the martyr.
>
> Another of your correspondents quite rightly points out that St
> Clair-sur-Epte is situated on the left bank of the River Epte and was part
> of ther Isle-de-France which belonged to to the
> Chaumont-Quitry family with  whom the St Clairs were inter-related.
>
> There has always been some 'confusion' as to which of the many places
> called St Clair or St Clare in France, the St Clairs took their name from.
> You have a wide choice but the distinct
> branches of the family emanated from St Clair-sur-Epte, St Clair-sur-Lo
and
> St Clair d'Eveque.
>
> I will give a list of the St Clairs of France when I can find that
> particular file amongst the
> numerous files in my possession.  In 1994 I sent a research team to France
> to trace the
> St Clairs there and the families with whom they were or became
> inter-related such as the
> Chaumonts, Gisors, d'Evreux, de Bar, de Courcy, Plantard, Blois etc.  The
> St Clairs were the Earls of Senlis and Corbeil and protected Paris from
the
> North which is why that City has the St Clair engrailed cross in its
> coat-of-arms.
>
> Niven Sinclair
> >> Sinclair de la Behottiere,
> >>
> >> You've been busy!
> >>
> >> Did the mayor have a specific date for the treaty of St.
Clair-sur-Epte?
> >> We're probably all agreed now that it was in 911, but what month and
day?
> >>
> >> Looking forward to the pictures and further reports.
> >> I've put your reports thus far in the web pages.
> >>
> >> >he has meet one other Sinclair, a family from the United
> >> >States Minnosotta?
> >>
> >> Could that be the David Sinclair Bouschor family?
> >>
> >> John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org>
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