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Re: McNokairds--two camps?l

Hi Juli:
Just to enlarge on your two camps idea.  I would not be quite so categorical that  two separate notions are mutally exclusive.  I, for example, accept as 'fact' the McNokairds/Sinclair paradigm as you and Karen have delineated.  What we don't know  is how many Argyll Sinclairs this covers.  Are you saying all?  I would rather doubt that that is what you are saying.  What you have done is made a terrific case for how a name change came about without quantifying it.  There may be Argyll Sinclairs for whom this explanation does not work.
I get a buzz from the knowledge that we are all on this planet 52 cousins, no matter race or continent of origin.  All who have some form of British ancestry, are 11th cousins.  I think it would be neat if we and some of our Argyll brothers and sisters are related more than by name but that is yet to be proven.  But any satisfaction that comes from that must be based on the research and in no way casts  aspersions on either side of the Highland/ Viking/ Norman divide.
Just another small thought.    Yours Aye,            Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Juli <kalwa@cwix.com>
To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 7:59 AM
Subject: RE: McNokairds--The Early Sinclairs of Argyll

Good morning Karen-
Yes, it is me again - sorry. 
I found two more families for sure that illustrate the name change very clearly.  Had to enlist my husband Andrew's help for a while last night - my eyes started to burn and the letters were all running together.  It took twice as long though - he had no idea what he was looking!!
After this week of discussion regarding the early Sinclairs it is apparent that there are two camps:  those that accept the theory as fact and those that have a deep need to connect to the northern clan.  That's fine.  My question for you is - while we can illustrate "proof" to the name change in the records I actually have never seen any record that lists a stranger in Cowal.  I assume there are some since it has been discussed.  Where would I find this?  I would like to use this to understand what time frame we are all using as 'early' Sinclair's.
Today I am staying away from my desk, computer and papers.  My eyes hurt - time to unwind and garden.  It is starting to get hot here so any divisions I am going to make of my perennials will have to be made now.
You know the best part of discovering the truth of the Mhic na ceard is that it explains so much about me.   I paint, draw, garden, build stone walls, sew, craft, build picket fences - generally work creatively with my hands a lot.  The thing that has given me a chuckle all week - is that I am probably more Scandinavian than most of the Clan - my father's family is Swedish!  My grandfather changed his name from Karl Oskar Andersson to Carl Oscar Anderson when he came as a young boy.
The two young lady missionaries who are assisting in my FHC currently are the most beautiful people I have ever met.  They simply radiate from the inside out.  
Have a great day and a wonderful weekend.