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Re: Connections with Portugal??




Dear Paul,
    For your Sutherland brother-in-law.
    Just going down through the Earl line of the Sinclairs I see that
William Sinclair b.c. 1433 m. Marjorie Sutherland b.c. 1436 of Dunbeath,
Caithness d. before 1480.  She was the d/o Alexander Sutherland b.c. 1395
and Marione Ile.

and John 3rd Earl of Caithness b. 1490 m. Elizabeth Sutherland b.c. 1488 at
the time residing in Duffus, Moray, Scotland, the d/o William Sutherland and
Janet Innes. chidlren:  Willaim b.c. 1446 d. 1527 and George 4th Earl of
Caithness b. 1533 d. 9 Sept. 1582
    John m. 2. to unknown b.c. 1500
    John m. 3rd to unknown and had David of Dun b.c. 1540 d. Mar. 1560.
There are 48 Sutherland names in the index of Vol 1 of Pete Cummings
"Genealogy of Prince Henry Sinclair"  See book section of website.

    I was about to return the borrowed book "A Prospect of Sutherland" by
Gilbert T. Bell.  I don't know whether you were on this site at the time I
gave a brief report of it???
It gives a chapter of the ancient history of the Sutherlands.  It goes into
depth about family from about the 1700's  and gives a good account of a
great family scandal.  It tells about the Duke of Sutherland who built the
RR a branch of which went over to wick.  He promoted many schemes to help
employ the people around there.  I'm sure that some of our Sinclairs must
have gone over to work in the mines or on the RR.  He brought in great
agricultural machinery but the land just wouldn't be fruitful.  Really
interesting to read some of the nuts and bolts of the economy.

    You know I always thought that Sutherland was a Swedish name.  I knew a
Sutherland family in Wisconsin.  In fact Harold saved me from drowning.  I
am really curious about this.
    No Temple surnames in Pete's books.
Laurel


-----Original Message-----
From: paul and k <pmtemple@muscanet.com>
To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Connections with Portugal??


>
>I am amazed at how the Sinclair website has helped me in my "quest"  Here
is
>another example.  thanx for your advice on the Augustan society.  Out of
the
>many messages we receive each day from the Sinclair site,  there may be
>several each week that end up being significant to me.  I am a Stewart
>decendent on my mother's side, this site helps much.  My brother in law is
a
>Sutherland.  I will pass on to him that he should look at the Sinclair site
>since I see much about them in the mail.  I am interested also in the
Temple
>geneology.  looking for names such as Laertes,  Ira, Joshua, Temple.  I
>thought it was a Welsh name. but I may be looking in wrong places.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Spirit One Email <laurel@spiritone.com>
>To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
>Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 11:10 AM
>Subject: Re: Connections with Portugal??
>
>
>>
>>The Augustan Society, Inc. has a 10 page reprint called "The Templars in
>>Portugal" by Dr. Giorgio A. Masini.  If you go to the sinclair website,
>>click on FAQ's and go down to #69 you will see a link to the Augustan
site.
>>Follow it to the reprint part.  You will be amazed at all the interesting
>>reprints that they have.  Many on Templars and chivalry but also ships
>>lists, genealogy (I found info on my Palmer line.  Never suspected that it
>>would come from this source) but lots of interesting stuff.
>>    But just scrolling through it I did not see the above mentioned
>Portugal
>>item so have sent a query about it.  I would recommend that all of you get
>a
>>feeling for what is on this website.  I think it will be helpful.
Probably
>>in other parts there will be more good stuff so look around.
>>Laurel
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Plumpett@aol.com <Plumpett@aol.com>
>>To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
>>Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 2:21 PM
>>Subject: Re: Connections with Portugal??
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Two possible connections come to mind ?
>>>
>>>First , the Templar survival in Portugal where it continued to flourish ,
>>>similar to the situation in Scotland .
>>>
>>>Second , the travel to the Holy Land with the heart of Bruce , which may
>>have
>>>involved Portugal prior to the death of the Sinclair ( ? William ) in
>Spain
>>>in a battle with the Moors .
>>>
>>> Joe Greigg
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