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Dear Toni, Well, these are the moments we family historians wait for. How can I thank you Toni for this breakthrough? And to think I went to bed last night without reading my email!! I will dig out my records and get back to you regarding the dates and which might be which. I am in the midst of moving, so bear with me. I have Bell on the daughter as a middle name, which I believe was repeated in a subsequent generation- let me check. I am interested (of course) in all of it. I also have a lot on Neil the minister, got a lot from the Baptist church records, including some of his sermons and a picture- do you have those? Now that I've brought it up, I must add that they are BURIED and I WILL get them but am not sure exactly when. The family stories talk about Neil the minister being an uncle, but I did want to confirm this, as they also talked about Donald the patriarch becoming ill on the ship and being taken to Neil's upon arrival in Canada where he died. After years of searching for where he might be buried (he is not with the rest of the Ontario family in Owen Sound) I listened to an interview with the grandson of the youngest brother on that journey of immigration, who'd heard it told by his grandpa that the father had died at sea and been buried at sea. I'm sure you have a million similar stories. I have an additional Sinclair family (3 Sinclair lines in Ontario all from Islay) which I am interested in whether she originated from your Neil's family. Let me do some checking. This is too exciting. The move may have to wait!! Best regards and forever grateful, Connie [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html