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did you know that in commemoration of that event, Sir John Sinclair GCIE GCIS (later Lord Pentland) - Secretary of State for Scotland and Governor of Madras in India, both in the early 20th century - had two Scots *deerhounds* as his supporters in his coat of arms, the dexter (left) holding a standard 'help' and the sinister (right) 'hold'? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Natrossinc@aol.com> To: <sinclair@mids.org> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 5:36 AM Subject: clan dogs > Speaking of dogs,I love the ballad that commemorates the day that The Bruce > and Sir William de St Clair of Rosslyn were out hunting.William had his two > hunting hounds called 'Help' and 'Hold' and they were in the Pentland Hills > hunting an elusive white hind.When they spotted the hind,the hounds set off > in pursuit and it was an even bet that the hind would escape by swimming a > burn or the hounds would bring it down.William wagered his life against > ownership of the land they were hunting on that his hounds would win.The > Bruce accepted this reckless wager and the ballad descibes how close a call > it was when the two hounds catch the deer in mid burn and drag it back to the > near shore. > The last two verses-- > The bold St Clair he sleeps in Spain, > For with good Lord James he did part. > When they hewed a red path through the host of slain > To follow the Bruce's heart. > > But Help and Hold,as I've been told, > May be seen in St Katherine's chapelle: > And scion and heir of the house of St Clair > Still love a good hound well. > > I fondly think that the last line refers not to a love of hunting but more to > a love of dogs.It certainly applies to this Sinclair. > Cheers > Ross Sinclair > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org > [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html