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Dear Sinclair, According to your own most recent statements "John XXII was a greedy heretic" and could not lawfully "Issue a Papal Bull or establish legitamate successors for the continuation of the Templars"... or something near those words. I believe that the Templars changed their name to avoid persecution, and that many of them went into countries where the would feel protected, like Scotland and Portugal. I believe that they stayed in touch, much like each diocese or parish within the Church, and that through perseverance their ideals srayed alive until they could be reunited. I am awaiting material by snail mail which will help me sort out the facts and become more sure of exactly what transpired through those years. I appreciate the comments and your diligent research. Sincerely, Stan -----Original Message----- From: Sinclair <labehotierre@wanadoo.fr> To: sinclair@quarterman.org <sinclair@quarterman.org> Date: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:37 AM Subject: Re: For Glen Cook, demise of the Templars??? >Dear Stanley, > >If you accept that the transformation is continuation would it not follow >that only knights of the Papal/Portugal order could claim any kind of >legitimate decent from the Templars? Only the Knights, of which they are [ Excess quotations omitted. ]