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Bruce, You have brought some very interesting thoughts to the table. My sentiments run in this vein. I know that what most are looking for is tangible evidence of the continuation from history. I continue to listen and study. No one has disolved the Church, nor can they. Even if they were undercover in many nations, they survived, stronger and more determined. A group with a burning desire to continue, and common bonds, such as the Templars, it seems are not likely to be totally disolved by a Papal Bull, or even mass executions. Stan Original Message: ----------------- From: bruce carlyon Bruce_Carlyon@syncsoft.com.au Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:47:45 +1000 To: sinclair@quarterman.org Subject: RE: For Glen Cook, demise of the Templars??? My thought as to why they should have attempted, if not succeeding to continue. A matter of speculation based on I see. [ Excess quotations omitted. ]