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Dear friends, Carbon dating techniques are, like any other human activity, subject toi error. Carbon dating pourous materials such as the mortar in the Newport Twoer is a complete waste of time, as shown by the results, as the mortar is pourous and allows a constant interchange between atmospheric carbon ( which includes a proportion of the radio-active isotope) and the molecular structure of the mortar. Thus the range of dates given by such a test are highly unreliable as was shown by the various experts who commented adversely upon those very tests. Carbon dating paper or cloth, however, is a far more precise proceedure - providing one ensures that the paper or cloth is not contaminated by any micro-biological growth. Since the carbon dating of the Turin Shroud, knowledge and techniques have improved considerably and carbon dating a document would clearly establish an accurate range of dates for the manufacture of the paper. Appropriate analysis of the ink, would give a clear indication of the date in which the document was written. As with analysis of paintings, in cases of alleged forgery, the dtae of manufacture of the paper may well be far earlier than the dtae it was wr5itten upon as it is not unknown for forgers of some ingenuity to use suitably old materials, paper, vellum or canvas, on which to concoct their forgery. Howver, I am sure that such examination of the so-called Charter of TRansmission of Larmenius would bring us all far closer to the truth than merely participating in a debate in which a large number of protagonists have such a vested ineterest in the outcome. Or, am I wrong? Do people really want the truth? Or, do they prefer the fantasists and fraudsters to mask our true heritage in a miasma of myth and make-believe? Best wishes Tim