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At 08:22 PM 15/02/02 -1000, Kevin wrote: >[...]and a shot of the alleged Templar/Masonic initiation, it >has the Templar William St. Clair's tombstone. Has anyone seen this and can >verify what and which William is shown? G'day Kevin, I can only verify that I have seen the stone. Just _which_ William is beyond my capabilities to prove. It has the floriated cross with an accompanying sword parallel to it. The stone is mounted on a very recent base, which I am pretty certain Niven arranged, to preserve it more effectively. Perhaps Niven may comment on this now that he is back from his trip abroad. There is a much clearer photo, and a later detail shot (both by Michael Green), in Tim's book "The Templar Legacy & The Masonic Inheritance Within Rosslyn Chapel." The same photo is also on the back cover of the book. It is captioned as: "Gravestone of Sir William de Sinncler". Tim may also be able to shed some light on which William it refers to. Cheers, Ian Newman Perth, Western Australia