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What would the origin of the Scottish Lion be? Would it have been from the Saxons, Normans, or have derived from the Crusaders encounters with Lions. Or did it come from the French or Moors? I am not sure how far into Europe the lion in it's natural state was found in ancient times, but I do not think it reached France, Scotland or England. Another question for the list is, did the Scots use the Lion emblem first, or did the English? The English have at least on one occasion utilised what they believe to be an important Scottish emblem viz the Stone of Scone. Mark Anderson [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html