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Laura, Bruce: I understand your position(s) and apologize if I sounded arrogant. I do believe that the people I've talked with are quite well informed; for the most part they understood about energy management, the areas of spiritual consciousness relating to the action, telluric linkages, and the impact of geometric form in all of this. Some are in the Clan or are close to it in some ways. A few are highly qualified in these skills, one is an expert. I respect the vast knowledge in the Mason's program however I'm working with a highly specific and complex system in terms of both energetic and related consciousness organization and function. It has several names but the "Reshel" (Chief Head Stone of God) is the one the Templars/Masons probably used. Anyway, it appears to be the basis of all the advanced sacred geometric designs I've found so far, and in all the very important places. These systems have layers of grids; the Masons know many of these but apparently not this critical Reshel system. I am saying that the Masons I've discussed this with have not heard of the Reshel grid or have seen it. This also included a few of their highest levels ...32nd degree? I have no problem in sharing anything I have with any of them. I can email a jpg graphic to anyone wishing it as well as post/mail a few examples re Rosslyn, Chartres, Wash. DC or whatever. So if you do have an interest in this particular system, or your Masonic friends, I'm completely open to discussion but off this list due to the complex nature of the subject. I've also done a detailed analysis of Monticello. It is said that Jefferson was not a Mason but he certainly knew the Craft (Reshel) and I've found a strong indication that he even built Monticello in the Mason's logo dynamic using telluric energy lines in that design. I suspect that he learned this skill in France since he extensively rebuilt the place after his return. His design is technically different than the one typically used, including the one in Washington DC, so Monticello is a unique and brilliant use of land energies unified through its architectural base. Regarding "history", this is a bit more complex. I work in nonlinear time; that is, the situation where past, present and future are dynamic and one system ...an Eternal-Now as the popular buzz word has it. Simply put: the past is reworkable and relevant now in many realms of evolution. (This list isn't the place to go into this so if interested address me directly.) My simple point here is that I believe that the Reshel system is found in the Scroll and is relevant now, linking into Sinclair and Masonic areas of interest. (I also find these things in scripture but again that is not for this list.) In view of Bruces' remarks regarding openness in discussion perhaps it would be mutually productive if I could brief some Masons on this system and its applications in key sacred architecture and other areas. Its the kind of thing that lends itself face-to-face in a workshop format. I suspect that Ps 118:18-24 is a key action to Masons interested in Rosslyn Chapel and I can address that in detail and suggest a process for doing it. Thank you for your responses: Blessings be with you and your own.. Bill Buehler [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html