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Dear William Thank you again. What I meant, to be more correct, was find a copy of The Book of Psalms in the Jewish Scriptures [Old Testament not P.C.] as I do not possess any Bible. Which I would need to check out your reference. I have only once in my life been to a regular Church service & that was because as a teenager on a rainy Sunday there was nothing else to do. I do not envisage learning Hebrew or Greek, but by chance have looked at [not studied] Hebrew calligraphy today, as after mentioning the tunnels, spent about six hours trying to re-find the web site I visited. [Maybe I could describe myself as flaky for that bit of information.] I have not got Psalms yet but have downloaded the free KOALA document and started to read it, this alone will take time, it seems to tie in with some of what a friend of mine has been studying for some time now, as she has Kundaleni[phonetic] rising. I will get copies of the two books you recommend. Thankfully the internet seems to be making available to many what where considered secrets of all sorts. But I am also aware that there is no privacy in any form of electronic communication. I will be in touch if I progress further. All the best Kermit [the name is a long story ; )] P.S. If any of this gets too much for the list I am contactable at k@kurmut.co.uk [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html