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Laurel, You are well ahead of me in your scholarship about the Crusades. I did know that they were devastating to large parts of Europe, and that it was a time of miracle seeking and visions. In desperation people seek for heavenly rewards and the Crusades with promises of heaven and treasure must have seemed wonderful. However I was laughing at my vision of those gentlemen in the iron underpants walking around Jerusalem. I am sure they were not made for walking. Jean > > >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org >[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html