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Tomar Castle was mentioned in the message from Alfonso Pzarro de Sampayo e Mello. You may also recall that Laura Zolo mentioned it when she was on her trip. You can access the Story of the Western Crusade and the information about Tomar Castle from "History" at www.clansinclairusa.org Then select the Laura Zolo link. Select: 04/May/2 "Gibraltar to Nazarč " or you can get there from "Crusades & European Wars" then select "Crusade of the West" Another new feature on this website is "Songs that the Crusaders Probably Sang" The link to that is from "Templars and Other Knights" Scroll to the bottom. The left column has the songs and the right column information about Bernard of Clairvaux who wrote many of them. You will probably recognize some from this list. The words have been around a long time. I got curious about this subject when I was reading about the Crusaders singing as they were walking around the walls of Jerusalem just before they captured it. I can picture many songs sung as they walked the long miles to the Holy Land. Laurel [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html