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The punch ballots used in Florida and elsewhere have been in use for many years eventhough a Federal election board recommended NOT using them back in 1988. Apparently the chads may or may not come off when punched. It appears the Democrats want to recount and recount and recount the votes until they find some fuzzy math to make Mr. Gore the winner of Florida. I had better check my airline tickets to Ft. Myers to see if they have the same chads. Now we hear of packs of cigarettes given to the homeless in the inner cities of Wisconsin to prompt them to vote for the Democratic ticket. Gee didn't Al Gore give an impassioned speech in the 1996 race about the evils of tobacco and the effects of smoking on his own sister's health. No, I'm sure Mr. Gore had nothing to do with the cigarettes in Wisconsin, but does it not tell a lot about how the Democrats really think about their core base of voters. Donald Sinclair of Indiana, the first state to go with Mr. Bush. [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html