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Thank you very much , Niven , and those who answered my query. Now I must ask which Archibald? I find a William Douglas (1340-1384)son of Archibald who had a 'liason' with Margaret Stewart resulting in George Douglas. This Archibald was brother of Sir James the Good and son of Sir William. Some claim William (spouse of Egidia)'s father Archibald as a 'natural' son of James the Good (and one of those nubiles I am sure!). One interesting sidelight (to me) is to the best of my knowledge,that the names Henry and William never made it to America with John of Exeter. [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html