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Laural, I cannot answer your questions but these are brilliant... with all respect due to Mark, he took on the topic and kicked out a book in just a few years, and look at the pace at which matters have developed in the last two alone... No one is perfect, books contain errors, but I think it takes some cheek to write about this stuff without long years of study and painstaking fact checking...no one can undertake such an overview as Mark attempted because of the incredible, and shifting, scope...but he tried and many who have read his book have read on to more, shall we say, academically approached works... The "facts" that he voices, and you so ably shine the light on, I have heard oft-repeated before his book, some by Sinclairs... The facts are in debate, and this is one of the roles of this list...I look forward to the answers myself... Obviously, oral traditions may be as inaccurate as that of written... rob, nova scotia [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html