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At 11:34 PM 10/3/00 +0100, Euan and Niven wrote: < I think it is fair to say that most people here have put the pain of the Clearances behind them.> Really ? Why is drug use, alcoholism, and associated behaviour so high among Scottish youth ? Do they live in a country which has only a directed , socially engineered, moulded future ? Why do they avoid joining in with the Scottish cultural traditions? Indeed, they laugh at them and mock them. Take a close look at the back streets of Glasgow. In the main there, it is said you can buy a Scottish Lassie for about 70 pnds. the hour at many escort services. Many of these people are not the slothful, but hold university and college degrees. One can make the case quite clearly that much of this is a result of cultural alienation which devalues Scottish traditions and institutions. That started long before the Clearances but then the Clearances were a signal event in the acceleration of the process which was bent on making Scotland a dependant 3rd world nation. It continues to this day despite the fact that modern Scots have become quite hardened to it, as you say, " most of the people here have put the pain of the Clearances behind them," when in fact the social symptoms from it are still very much present for those who did not immigrate. Seeing these is one of the most painful things one can experience when visiting Scotland from abroad. You say: <"Such people need a kick up <the backside rather than pseudo-psychological twaddle of this kind which merely invites <them to do nothing to help themselves. True, it provides employment for psychologists <but the end-results are purely negative. I hope Sinclairs are wise enough to avoid this <escape route - this 'shifting the blame' syndrome." The English have been kicking Scots up the backside for generations, and actually have convinced Scots that this is the remedy for everything. The Scots learned then to kick themselves in the backside.Indeed it is this failure to remember Highland gentility which perpetrates the dysfunctional approach you advocate. If kicking people in the backsides really worked, then Scotland would have the highest GNP in the world. Shifting the blame has little to do with it. When there are alcoholics in every generation of a family, it is a pattern of kicking the kids in the backsides which " causeth " them to become at risk to deviant behaviours. The awareness of the pattern has nothing to do with shifting the blame. It has everything to do with understanding, in the biblical sense , what it means to be cursed unto the 99th generation. With that awareness the cycle can be interrupted quite effectively. You can easily conclude that those who suffer that way are merely trash to be kicked about, but in fact , there but for a few too many belt stroppings across our naked arses, go you or I. A close scrutiny of the life of Rob Roy MacGregor while allow one to see quite effectively the fallacy of the ass kicking approach, and if anything can be said, it is that he met such suffering with the courage of unwavering kindness, a remarkable thing for someone who was supposed to have been an ignorant, uncivilized, cattle rustler, according to the British version of him. I recommend that any one who hasn't read it , and who may be interested in the historical way that Highlanders viewed their duties to fellow men and women, read this scholarly and informative work : Rob Roy MacGregor : His Life & Times by W. H. Murray Paperback - 314 pages (March 1998) Interlink Pub Group; ISBN: 0862415381 It is available through Amazon.com for about 6 pnds. I do agree with you that there is the tendency for some to say , " its not my fault," and some do shift the blame for such behaviours through this type of "rationalization." But that view gives only a partial picture of the phenomenon we both speak of. The question may not be merely whether these folk are not strong enough to help themselves but whether they even want to bother helping themselves since life doesn't seem to be quite worth the effort. Hedonism seems a better alternative," eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we may die." Indeed many of us did die, through little or no fault of our own historically. That erroneous view is stereotypically , factually justified and intergenerationally transmitted with the aid of abuse within the Scottish family, disguised as "discipline". There are no easy answers to the problem but one can say that a shift away from cultural materialism might give some possibility of awareness of historical alienation and the social processes through which suffering is promoted intergenerationally. Certainly it would be interesting to see several politicians, who sit in Scotlands Parliament, take this view of their nation. In it there is slightly more than just a mere grain of truth. Scots are also a nation unto themselves, just as one can speak of a " Jewish" nation, so we too exist that way internationally. I do not say this to seem "holier than thou," but I want to point out that this is a fact which is often understandably minimized by resident Scots, who have the very powerful , immediate concerns to deal with, in the way their country is unfolding in front of them. Those of us who care about Scotland very much, look to her with a much broader perspective, augmented by both the time and distance of the historically disenfranchised. In this way there may be some useful insights which might provoke some constructive thinking. Yours, aye, Dale Hinchey Caledonia County, Vermont, USA >> >>IMO, to think that the process can be reversed and the Highlands >>'resettled' by descendants of emigrés is slightly fanciful. I'm not at >>all sure that there would much interest anyway. There is enough disposable income among the ancestors of emmigre' Scots to buy the Highlands twice over. Give us some time. We are working on it. >> >>No, if the Highlands are to be repopulated and the Scottish Parliament is >>to demonstrate any sort on contrition, the Parliament should open its >>chequebook and start spending on the infrastructre (esp. digital) so that >>'settlers' can live rurally and work remotely. Here , here. Fibre optical land lines would be a good start. >> >>Euan >> >>PS - Jacboties ??? > > >Euan, > >An excellent summation of the situation. > >Always remember, Governments open cheque-books with our money. Subsidies >are rarely (if ever) a long term answer. In any event, any returning >'settlers' would >be like fish out of water. Hardly fish out of water. In the emmigre' process our fathers and mothers learned to live anywhere and those skills were passed down to us. The government won't need to open any check book of its own. We have more than enough silver to buy the land if it were made available through a devolutionary process away from the larger estates, over time AND more than enough silver to invest in Scotland. >Information Technology will bring people back to the Highlands without any >need for other inducements. As you rightly point out, people can live >'rurally' and work 'remotely' >- thanks to the IT at our finger-tips. I hope that you are right about this. >My brother's book "A Feeling for the Land" suggests (among many other >things now >being adopted by the majority of EU countries) that we could reduce our >National >Health Bill by half if we got people back to the countryside - if only so >that they could >walk on Mother Earth rather than on concrete. IT will make this a reality. Bravo! >Finally, Man's ability to deceive himself is undoubtedly his most >developed faculty. I >have seldom read such flawed reasoning being advanced as an excuse for the >failure of the >some Scots to 'make good' because of "multi-generational traumas" they >suffer as a result >of what happened to their ancestors during "The Clearances". Such people >need a kick up >the backside rather than pseudo-psychological twaddle of this kind which >merely invites >them to do nothing to help themselves. True, it provides employment for >psychologists >but the end-results are purely negative. I hope Sinclairs are wise enough >to avoid this >escape route - this 'shifting the blame' syndrome. I disagree with this part above, but I still love your craggy ass. >There is only one person responsible for one's own failures - one-self!! This is true in one sense but not in another. Socialization is a subtle process. >It isn't one's mother or father, or brothers or sisters, or teachers or >bosses, or this >syndrome or that syndrome, or this abuse or that abuse, or past traumas >experienced >by one's ancestors which result in failure. It is the thought which >suggests failure. This idea you relate here above about self fullfilling prophecy is true. However there is also an intergenerational pattern to bahaviours which set people up for failure. These are culturally transmitted within the family and can be overcome by simply being aware of them. Perhaps HRH Prince Phillip is a living example of the dynamic I speak of. >Our best friends and our worst enemies are our thoughts. Think failure >and you will >assuredly get failure. True enough in the individual sense but unfortunately we do not enter the world alone, and we are influenced heavily by those who raise us. Would that it were so simple. >Think success and you will reap success. The recipe is as >simple as that. The ingredients are within us. Yes and I agree with you in this , that we are each our strongest resource unto ourselves. But remember that you are helping each of us by saying that, and just maybe there are some whose fathers told them repeatedly that they were worthless, and this was environmentally confirmed by historical feelings of self worthlessness. Few people have been valued below sheep. We were, and even though we put that behind us, the effects of it may be a long time wearing out. >Niven Sinclair Thanks for the insightful post Niven Dale Hinchey [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html