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Dear Rory Look again I said that we were attained after the 1715 rising, we must have been there to be attained. It is the other three we were out of'. The passionate well researched e-mail by John and Dale need study. No hip shot responses.from me at least. I think it is important to show what the "stuff" of our chiefs were and are. I am uncomfortable with apologies for historical events. I see it as grandstanding by the Scots Parliament. Sinclair. . [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html