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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean" <sinead@milamba.com> To: <sinclair@matrix.net> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Sinclairs in Georgia > > > Just a brief response that I have never before seen JSQ so informative or > involved! > And it is true that names do not rigidly adhere to the format of Given and > Surname. > We have one family member whose name is Duncan Winburn Patton - mother was > Sinclair, Winburn is for the family property which was sold the day he was > born. > And on the given/Christian name format - one of my uncles was baptised > James Clarence and known as Clare until he was twelve, when he announced > he would only answer to Jim. Typical Sinclair determination - he won and > was known as Jim from then on. > Jean > > >> > > > >> >BOISSY > > >> >Sex: F > > >> >Marriage(s): > > >> >Spouse: Jesse CARVER > > >> >Marriage Abt. 1811 > > >> ><>, Tattnall, Georgia > > >> > > >> Do you have a source for this marriage record? > > > > > >Yes, the source is the IGI, to find out the film no. go there. Never > > >mind, here it is; > > > > > >Source Information: > > >Film Number:1903589 > > > >Thank you for citing a more complete source. However, that still doesn't > >say where the marriage record came from, or why the "Abt. 1811". Is the > >date anything more than speculation from her birth date or the birth date > >of her first know child? > > > >Regarding the reliability of LDS records, there are various opinions, > >and yes, varying parts of the LDS records. > > > > >>And just because > > >> they recorded a single name as a surname isn't much evidence that it > > >> was a surname and not a first name. > > > > > >My statement that the name Boissy normally is a surname is NOT only > > >based on findings in familysearch.com. Why don't you try your self to > > >find out how common it is/was by just searching the net or the white > > >pages in any country. That would basically give you a good hint on > > >whether it's a surname or a christian name. I am quite sure that you > > >after that will make the same assumption. > > > >I said nothing about whether Boissy normally is a surname. I agree > >that it normally is a surname. But for this specific person, the woman > >who married the Carver man, Boissy was according to Huxford a first name, > >not a surname. > > > >This happens. There are people out there with Sinclair as a first name. > >For example, in our family database there is a Sinclair MacDonald, whose > >mother was a Sinclair. > > > >Or a middle name (me, for example), even though you could say with just > >as much evidence that "Sinclair normally is a surname". > > > > >I am not really sure what you meant to say by your comment. > > > >I meant to say what I said, as is almost always the case with anything I say. > > > > > And I am > > >sorry if it all made Christine confused as it was all meant to help out. > > >Maybe this just gives her the information that there are different > > >points of wives. And when it comes to "the standard reference" for that > > >time and place, as you put it - of which I know nothing - > > > >That's not surprising. Pioneer Georgia was a universe unto itself. > >However, anyone who studies genealogy of that time and place finds out > >about Huxford pretty quickly. > > > > > I just want to > > >point out the fact that there are just one reliable source and that is > > >parish records and such not an old published book. > > > >Um, no, there are numerous primary sources, including land records, > >church records, family letters, family bibles, etc., as I'm sure you know. > >Huxford is also not just an old published book; it is a ongoing series, > >currently up to ten or twelve volumes, and a quarterly journal. It mines > >all such sources. It isn't always correct, but it is a good place to start. > > > > > And if I understood > > >everything right there where no reference to this Boissys parents or her > > >past for that matter. And to me it is not good enough with a book who > > >tells me that there are no further information on a particular person as > > >long as it does not show a thorough investigation into the known Boissys > > >then coming up with proofs that there where no connection what so ever. > > > >Huh? Huxford shows the connections between the two Boissy Carvers; > >they were grandmother and granddaughter, as I mentioned in my previous > >message. > > > > >So I stay with my conclusion that as long as nothing else is proven she > > >is the daughter of NN Boissy and not the daughter of any unknown > > >Sinclair. > > > >I'd say the more appropriate conclusion is that we don't know what > >Boissy Carver's maiden surname was. > > > > >Just a last thought, why on earth should a Scottish Sinclair choose a > > >French surname as christian name for his daughter?! > > > >Perhaps because his wife was a French Huguenot? > >For example, we have the case of Anna Maria Macintosh, > >daughter of Charlotte Nephew > >daughter of Mary Magdalene Gignilliat > >daughter of James Gignilliat > >son of John Gignilliat and Mary Magdalene Dupre > >whose parents were both from Switzerland. > > > >This case wasn't French, but there was quite a bit of French Huguenot > >emigration into the Carolinas and Georgia after the revocation of the > >Edict of Nantes, so a French Huguenot case would not be unusual. > > > > >Regards > > >Lena > > > >John S. Quarterman <jsq@matrix.net> > >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org > >[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > > > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org > [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html