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Hi Donald, No, the Murphy's are not on the St. Clair side of the family. Sincerely, Lesley >Hi Lesley, Does John T. Murphy of Ottawa fit anywhere in you research. > Donald H. Sinclair Swan River Manitoba Can. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Niven Sinclair > To: sinclair@matrix.net > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: St. Clairs in 19th c. Albany? > > > At 12:49 16/07/00 -0700, you wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I just subscribed to the list. My name is Lesley Murphy, and my >gggrandmother was Mary Frances St. Clair, who lived in Albany, NY, and >married my gggrandfather, David Tuttle Fuller in 1837 or 1838. I am >actively involved in genealogical research, and have had a very difficult >time tracing Mary Frances's ancestry. I hoped that her name might ring a >bell with someone on the list. We are particularly interested in her >because she is the spitting image of my mother! > > Any replies would be greatly appreciated. > > > I do not know whether this will give you a lead but: > > Captain Charles Northop St Clair was born in Russeltown, >Quebec > 9th June, 1812. When an infant of 5 months, his parents >moved to > Barre, New York which was ever after his home. The St >Clair > homestead was that part of Barre which became Albion. >Mr St Clair] > grew up and aided his father in clearing the lands. At >20, he was a good musician. he manufactured (with his own >hands) violins and guitars. > > At the same age he became Captain of the Orleans Grays >which was > one of the finest military companies in that area of the >country. > > At one period of his life he commanded and owned boats >on the Erie > canal running from Buffalo to New York City but >eventually chose farming > as his main business and devoted his life to it. > > He married 10th June 1833 Elmina Baldwin daughter of >Joel and Elizabeth > Turrell of Pleasant Valley, Duchess County, N.Y. The >young couple built > for themselves a house on the St Clair Estates. > > They celebrated their golden wedding in 1883. > > He died in Albion of paralysis 29th October, 1893 and >his wife died > in Albion on 6th October, 1896. Both are buried in >Mount Albion > cemetery. > > Their Children were: > > Alphonzo Turrell > Francis Osmond > James Julius > Charles Henry* > Arthur Knowles > Joel Fuller Turrell** > Helen Louisa St Clair (an adopted >daughter) > The Hon Charles Henry St Clair also engaged in the business of >steam-boating but, > during the war, made a daring escape from the Confederates and became a >pilot on board U.S.Ship Harriet Lane under Commander Wainwright of Admiral >Farrgut's fleet > > Joel Fuller Turrell was involved in the Battle of Mile Run, Virginia >where he was badly > wounded. > > He married Mary H. Baird and of their 6 children, one was called Mary >Isabella b.1869 > > I could not find any Mary Frances in this particular family but thought >that the frequent > appearance of the name "Fuller" (usually as a middle name) was >interesting. > > Niven Sinclair > > Sincerely, > Lesley Murphy > >________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com > > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org > [ To get off or on the list, see >http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html