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Re. The ouisburg story and the cannon. Andrew based his entire proposition regarding Louisburg on the allegation that those cannon were only in limited circulation for avery brief number of years and that, therefore, the most likely candidate for theirdeposition was Prince Henry. On this basis he confected the Henry/Louisburg story and then had to stretch credulity to the limits regarding the 'smaoking mountain' pssage in the Zeno Narrative. The problem is that this type of cannon, while originating in Venice in the fourteenth century, were widely copied by othersand were in general use until the 1540s.Thus blowing away Andrew's main premis. Furthermore, similar cannon were found in quite large numbers at a fort much further south whose origin is wellestablished and had nothing whatsoever to do with the St Clair/Zeno voyage, which was much earlier. Pohl and Hobbes have established beyond all reasonable doubt the geographical origins of the 'smaoking mountain' passage in the narrative. This places Henry's landfall at Guysborough and we happily accept that without reservation. While Pohl, who laid the basic groundwork superbly, certainly made some errors, as we all do from time to time, but on this point he was spot on. Andrew's case for Louisburg as the landing simply does not stand any detailed analysis. Hobbes and Pohl's version however stands up without any major problems. I for one, have no doubts that Basque, Breton and Bristol fisherman were using the Newfoundland Banks as a superb fishing ground for many decades before Columbus alleged discovery of North America. That may, or may not, have had an influence on the later French exploration and settlement of Nova Scotia.Undoubtedly the cannon, both there and further South, were brought by the French. Furthermore, plaques errected inall sincerity, can only be held to indicate tradition or belief and not fact, unless backed up by convincing, independant evidence. To establish the truth of Prince Henry's Voyage is the aim of all of us, but it can only be acomplished with reasoned argument which is based upon hard evidence. In our new book we have tried to do just that, knowing in advance that we are going to have to defend our thesis against sustained and vitriolic attack from the academic establishment in North America who still cling on to blinkered thinking based upon the falacious assumption that 'There was no European contact with America before Columbus.'. We are also aware that many disciplesof Pohl, who have taken his work as holy writ, are going to dislike our approach intensively. For more of this you will all have to wait until publication day, but, inthe meantime, ask yourselves these questions: 'Would any experienced maritime commander,such as Henry, have sent his fleet home leaving a party, thousandsof miles from home completely dependant on small rowing boats? If he did would he also build a ship fromscratch with green wood in the depths of a Nova Scotian winter, bearing in mindthat allthe evidence from the North Atlantic Islands such as Greenland indicates that there was a 'mini-ice-age' at that time? That should act as an effective trailer - wait for the full production. Best wishes Tim [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html