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Subject: Sinclair Engrailed Cross John, As with Niven I'd really appreciate knowing what you might discover re the engrailed cross. I'm a retired Navy Commander and at my age have nothing better for entertainment than sacred geometry. And an intense interest in Clan Sinclair. Re the geometry I find that it can be a schematic for organizing both energy and complementary consciousness. This gets me into temple and earth grid dynamics as well as translation and interpretation of scripture. Then too, this demands that I at least try to understand related archetypes and their application ...like "What's a grail and what's it good for?" What geometry describes a grail dynamic? My studies and experimentation show the primary angle to be 26 deg, 18+ minutes. We can make a vesica out of that, instead of the usual 30 degrees, and we have what I believe to be the Sinclair engrailed cross geometry: the size/ratio of the "cup" or vesica. Then with this assumption we must know what the blue field is relative to the black cross format. This becomes quite technical in a metaphysical context having to do with primal creation process within a field of divine grace. Pretty standard in all major religions including the Judeo Christian but not many know of it much less use it. Clan Sinclair did/does. I don't intend to discuss religion or spiritual matters on this circuit so if you wish a more complete explanation you can get me at roslinne@fone.net. The "Bethlehem" angle is named for the angle from the Great Pyramid to Bethlehem, also the angle in the Pyramid used with the two ascension passageways. This angle is found in primary grid geometry in Rosslyn Chapel, Chartres, Monserrat basilica, Stonehenge, and St Mari's chapel at Glastonbury (crypt). A few examples. It locates the "Resh" (Hebrew for Chief Head Stone) that becomes the corner (Ps 118:19-24). A complete explanation would take a few days. I doubt that you will find this information in written books since the technology was once secret. The Templars had it and also the Masons to some degree ...I'm not a Mason so I can't comment on that. St. Columba had it before the Templars. Clan Sinclair applied it extensively in designing and siting their temples, castles. I think Nivens' observations below are valid but as he would undoubtedly admit there is more to it. In my study of the Shield I used the design from the Chapel "boss" shown in Andrew Sinclair's THE SWORD AND THE GRAIL. This shows two thumbs marking a line across the top. The "thumb" in Hebrew is the letter Yud (#10) once drawn as a bent arm with open hand, thumb up. This is another technical thing relating to the "two yuds" (Yeshua and Yachannen, ie Jesus and John: John 3:30). I mention this because this design can be superimposed over the lower chapel (crypt) to effectively unify the Chapel's highest function with the Shield. Remember that we are trying to find out not just what these elements are in a grand design but more precisely: what they do. If we know the primary function of the Shield, then we can determine the Chapel overlay. A Sinclair knight would then have the basic "spritual alchemy" for his shield. Niven has a good point: "I have always thought it represented the protection of the true cross because we were the knights of the grail - hence engrailing." I would add one thing relative to the above paragraph and his remark here, that the energetic formats or "codes" in the Shield and the engrailing can be directly transferred to the man himself by a transferrence process. Thus the knight becomes not only the Grail but also the Temple (Chapel) and essence of the Clan. Everything helps when some wrong thinker is enthusiastically beating you on the head and shoulders with a great large sword. Thoth Hermes oversees spiritual sciences: math, music, healing and regeneration, languages, etc. Yeshuas' 12 disciples organized the same within the archetype of the 12 point wheel or temple. Yeshu would be in the center but would work through the "yud" factor in them all, principally Jachannen. In contemplating the cross also include the unseen vertical axis or "5th" element related to the "4." As in Eden we have four rivers and lands that are generated by the one (5th). "Eden" means "controlling foundation" when spelled with the alternate "a" letter ...ie use both aleph and ayin to usually find the hidden application. The Upanishad Maitri 2.6 uses the same concept but with breaths. This is encoded in the Hebrew letter peh which "blows into 4-corners." I don't know of any seminary or literature with the above information; one has to dig it out the hard way. The geometry for the engrailed cross can be sent by jpg directly to you if you wish it. Blessings, Bill Buehler Colorado, USA Minister: Church of Antioch (Malabar Rite) --------------- References: Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:48:07 +0100 From: Niven Sinclair <niven@niven.co.uk> Subject: Re: Engrailed Cross At 11:42 16/05/00 +0000, you wrote: Another list I subscribe to are discussing the origins of the Sinclair Engrailed Cross. Can anyone help? Thanks John ----------------- (From Niven:) John, I'd be interested in what they have to say. I have always thought it represented the protection of the true cross because we were the knights of the grail - hence engrailing. Others say that the four legs represent the rivers of paradise. But, if you look carefully at the engrailed crosses within Rosslyn Chapel you will find, if you cut off at the first knuckle, you are looking at the croix pattee of the Knights Templar - hidden but plain to see and, on the outside of the Chapel, there is the head of Hermes indicating the sealed secret within i.e. the association with the banned Templars. Niven [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html