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Sorry, sorry, I didn't mean to take up so much space and time with the subject of breeding. Just thinking out loud and using the Sinclair list as my forum. I DO want to end this conversation, though, by saying that I don't think there are enough Scots in the world. Even if we do have loose tempers, I find our costumes more delightful to look at and much more utilitarian than most. Then there are the pipes. . . .a symphony orchestra in one instrument. And if you think otherwise, you're not a true Scot. Haggis is another thing altogether. Johnnye St. Clair-Gerhardt [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html