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Speaking of dogs,I love the ballad that commemorates the day that The Bruce and Sir William de St Clair of Rosslyn were out hunting.William had his two hunting hounds called 'Help' and 'Hold' and they were in the Pentland Hills hunting an elusive white hind.When they spotted the hind,the hounds set off in pursuit and it was an even bet that the hind would escape by swimming a burn or the hounds would bring it down.William wagered his life against ownership of the land they were hunting on that his hounds would win.The Bruce accepted this reckless wager and the ballad descibes how close a call it was when the two hounds catch the deer in mid burn and drag it back to the near shore. The last two verses-- The bold St Clair he sleeps in Spain, For with good Lord James he did part. When they hewed a red path through the host of slain To follow the Bruce's heart. But Help and Hold,as I've been told, May be seen in St Katherine's chapelle: And scion and heir of the house of St Clair Still love a good hound well. I fondly think that the last line refers not to a love of hunting but more to a love of dogs.It certainly applies to this Sinclair. Cheers Ross Sinclair [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html