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Taking a break from other things to add a few comments on architecture and what certain persons would or would not have been familiar with in 1300-1400 in our so called dark ages. I take issue with a simplistic view that because such and such did or did not exist, an individual would or would not have been aware of round construction. Some interesting prespectives of the period was that individuals in the 1300's were educated literate and knowledgeable about many things. Construction which was tied to the guilds and to the masons was by 1300 a very old and well developed science. Much of the architectual development of 1300 has not been improved upon to this date. Now this does not authenticate the ability of any given individual to actually know or not know a given part of construction methods.. Round buildings have a special challenge because of the roof design. My point is simply that construction of buildings of a round design may be very well possible for masons/guilds to be fully aware of and I would not be surprised in the "science" was available by 1300-1400. Now a pro pos of Newport, the most interesting aspect is the measurements that were used as one of the key evidences as to the origins of the construction. Just a thought or two on the evolution of construction and knowledge in the middle ages. Neil Toronto/PEI/Argyll [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html