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Hi Jenny, The William I was looking at had a brother John born in 1825, but in Latheron. No mother is mentioned. I'll hunt a little further for you if you'd like. And yes, Lyall is a Sept of Clan Sinclair. Regards Margaret At 06:49 AM 01/03/2000 , you wrote: >Dear Margaret, > >Do you know any more about the people you mentioned. I think William may >have had a brother John. On William's death certificate it says that JAmes >would have been a farmer. William was either born in 1822 or 1823 in Wick. > >William married in wick, in 1850 to Barbara Lyall - that is a sept of >Sinclair is it not? >Her parents were Henry Lyall and Janet Sinclair. > >Jenny > > >>From: Margaret Stokes <milamba@labyrinth.net.au> >>Reply-To: sinclair@mids.org >>To: sinclair@mids.org >>Subject: Re: Patrick Sinclair of Fort Michillimackinac >>Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:14:39 +1100 >> >>Hi Jenny, >> >>There was a James Sinclair that married Margaret McKay on 14 March 1822 at >>Latheron >>and a William Sinclair christened Feb 1823 to a James Sinclair of that >>area... Could that be them? >> >>Margaret >> >> >>At 08:08 AM 29/02/2000 , you wrote: >>>Dear Niven, >>> >>>You haven't heard of James and Margaret Sinclair about 1800 ish in that >>>line have you. >>>I am struggling to connect them and their son William Sinclair born about >>>1822, wick , scotland, to any line at all. >>>Just an over hopeful querry, i would love to connect them up somewhere and >>>my nana used to mention the castle of Mey a great deal. >>>Jenny :) >>> >>>> >>>>The Ulbster family are descended from WiIliam Sinclair, the first laird of >>>>Mey (where the >>>>Queen Mother now lives) who was the second son of George II, the 42nd Earl >>>>of Caithness. >>>>His elder brother John was said to have been imprisoned by his father in >>>>Girnigoe castle >>>>and was said to have been crushed to death by a visit of the Master in >>>>1572. I have never >>>>believed this story which was spread by the Gordons. >>>> >>>>The Ulbsters have always been known as the "able Ulbsters" because they >>>>have displayed >>>>much academic success - a trait which is usually absent >>>>from Sinclairs. The unifying >>>>characteristic is bad temper (as you have already noted and as these >>>>columns have >>>>occasionally witnessed). >>>> >>>>At one time the Ulbsters were the largest Sinclair landowners in Caithness >>>>(when 80% of >>>>Caithness was owned by 17 Sinclair families) but death duties have eroded >>>>their wealth >>>>until it is now doubtful if Sinclairs own even 1% of >>>>Caithness Similarily, we are no longer >>>>the most common surname. That claim, according to the last census, goes to >>>>the McKays. >>>> >>>>Niven Sinclair >>> >>>______________________________________________________ >>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >>> >>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org >>>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >> >>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org >>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org >[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html