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In "Beyond Any Shadow of Doubt" I give the names of 25 experts from various disciplines and from 10 different nations, who add the weight of their authority to the authenticity of the Zeno narrative and the acccuracy of the Zeno map which, as Andrew Sinclair points out in his book and as I re-iterate and re-inforce in "Beyond Any Shadow of Doubt". Against this galaxy of savants, we have Fred Lucas, Cuthbertson and Smith - neither of whom have done any original research. I demolished Lucas. Jim Guthrie demolished Cuthbertson and Brian Smith is now clinging desperately to an untenable situation. The confusion seems to arise over Nicolo Zeno having been in prison. Firstly, I have seen no evidence of this and, in any event, the names Nicolo, Carlo and Antonio cascade down through the generations. Secondly, the evidence which I have seen from the Zeno family tree in the Zeno Palace clearly shows Nicolo as being one of the brothers who explored the lands beneath the "Polo Arctico". This is conformed by Torfaeus, the Royal Danish Historian in his "Lives of the Zeno Brothers". Evidence of their voyages is also shown on two enormous globes in the Museo Correr in Venice. The Zeno Narrative was also signed by the Venetian State Secretary, Ramusio, which effectively gave it the seal of approval of the Doge and the Council of Ten who governed Venetian affairs. They would not have willingly, knowingly or deliberately have debased the accurate historical records of the Venetian State by endorsing a forgery. Venetian records are renowned for their accuracy. Venice was a maritime power which, over the centuries, withstood the power of Rome, the threat of the Austria-Hungarian Empire and the ambitions of Napoleon. Indeed, it is difficult for us to begin to appreciate the influence which Venice exerted in the Mediterranean. Cyprus, Corfu and Dalmatia were Venetian possessions - not merely enclaves. She dominated trade with the Levant. The Zeno family alone could have provided Henry Sinclair with his entire fleet. In the 14th Century (even after the scourge of the Black Death) Venice was still producing one ship a day. Over 400 ships left the Arsenale carrying troops in support of King Peter of Cyprus's Crusade against Alexandria in 1365. These were Venetian ships. (The Venetian coat-of- arms bears the croix pattee of the Knights Templar. And, as our film shows, the well in the Courtyard of the Zeno Palace carries the Zeno coat-of-arms on one side and the croix pattee of the Knights Templar on the other side. As you are aware, I have spent many years studying the Prince Henry Sinclair saga. I have travelled where he travelled and with, each passing year, the authenticity of his voyage is less and less in doubt. My recent visit to Venice simply reinforces earlier certainties. I am not a person who chases will o' the wisps or who is given to support lost causes. I am, however, a person who is determined to ensure that history is corrected and that Henry Sinclair and the illustrious Zeno Brothers are given their proper place in history. It is to be hoped that Laura Zola's voyage to re-trace the steps of the Zeno brothers will do a great deal to publicise a little known but significant episode in the 'discovery of the New World'. Significant because of the involvement of the Venetians and the Knights Templar. It wasn't significant in any other sense as such voyages had been made for centuries We read a lot about John Cabot (an Italian) sailing from Bristol in 1497 to claim the New World on behalf of the Hanovarians although beaver pelts rolled and wrapped in the manner of the Iroquois had been landed in Bristol since the beginning of the 15th Century. There is no evidence that he ever landed in the New World. His voyage was exaggerated for English national and political reasons just, as earlier, the voyage of Columbus had been used by the Church of Rome to extend its tentacles into the New World. In our study of history we should always be looking for "The Hidden hand of History" What was really taking place behind the scenes?. Who was pulling the strings? Who was writing history and for what purpose? By the Treaty of Tordesillas, for example, Rome carved the World up between Spanish and Portuguese spheres of influence. In this carve up there was no place for the Norse/ Norman. There was no place for the Anglo-Saxon. There was no place for the indigenous people of the World and, of course, there was no place for Henry Sinclair who was a Knight Templar and Knights Templar were anathema to Rome. Her clerics wrote their own version of history which took on the sanctity of the gospel. It is only now that people are beginning to look beyond this sanitized version of history. The Norse sagas, for example, are now being seen as some of the most accurate accounts of history whereas, previously, they had been seen in the same light as Homer's Iliad or Odyssey i.e. to be taken with a pinch of salt. Wonderful reading but wildly exaggerated. Well, there is nothing exaggerated about Henry's voyage. Such voyages had been made for centuries and, when we keep that in mind, the incessant querying and questioning might cease. Even the size of his fleet (12) was small given the size of Leif Erikson's fleet of 50 ships and King Peter of Cyprus's armada of 400 ships. I hope this will help to get things into proper perspective. Niven [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html