I am 62 - my local society calls it the Social Security Death index and no I
did not know the initials and no I have never used it and no I am not a liar
and yes I do resent the implication.
My late father always said if you ask enough questions and the right
questions you will find what you needed to know.
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: milamba <milamba@milamba.com>
To: <sinclair@mids.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Sinclair Genealogy Digest Number 11
>Jean,
>
>SSDI = Social Security Death Index. but I'm quite sure you knew that -
>couldn't have ever read a book on American genealogy without knowing it!
>
>As to the rest - my thoughts are in agreement with Lena's
>
>Margaret.
>
>At 03:42 PM 18/09/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>I will not dignify the statement regarding $$$ with a response. It is an
>>insult to every hard-working genealogist in the United States. There is
no
>>profit in genealogy unless you take the research of someone else and do
not
>>spend the hours and hours and travel the miles and miles to dig out the
>>information. To insinuate otherwise only proves that you have not trodden
>>that path yourself. As my CPA is fond of saying, "you may break even if
>>you live to be 150!" If you wish to make money, you publish a trashy
>>novel - you do not publish a family history.
>>
>>I have no idea what the SSDI base is, nor do I intend to find out. My
>>entire research has been documented directly from the primary source and
>>used only to preserve the 35 years of family histories entrusted to me.
>>
>>I have no fear of the internet whatsoever - What is there to fear? After
>>teaching 25 years and completing 5 years of college, I do however, have a
>>fear of the loss of an individual's right to preserve their own history,
>>and a great fear of new knowledge being lost as authors and musicians are
>>finding their materials stolen daily.
>>Jean
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Lena A L <lal@algonet.se>
>>To: <sinclair@mids.org>; milamba <milamba@milamba.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 12:41 PM
>>Subject: Re: Sinclair Genealogy Digest Number 11
>>
>>
>> >Dear Jean and others who fear the Global Database,
>> >
>> >Jean Grigsby wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My feelings derive from the many, many people who have requested that
>>their
>> >> family history not be used for public consumption.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >The future Global base it not intended to be public in the sense that
>> >the whole world population may access the base. It's for Sinclairs only,
>> >that's why the base it NOT accessible via the net for the time being.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I can still recall my
>> >> nephew calling me late one night as he had found my parents (his
>> >> grandparents) listed on a website and only one child listed - me. He
was
>> >> extremely upset and to be quite frank so was I. I had never heard of
the
>> >> person and when contacted he admitted he had copied the data from a
small
>> >> family book I had published in 1970 - 29 years ago.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >The important word above is the word PUBLISHED........ make it public...
>> >and as you made it public there are no way of you stopping who ever from
>> >doing the same as long as they have access to the source (unless they
>> >violate rules of copywrite etc), just like you do when you quote some
>> >other writer or person when giving information on this list.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I had only made 10
>> >> copies for family members and unfortunately one of the recipients
passed
>> >> away and during this 20 year period it had ended up in an "in-laws"
>>hands -
>> >> a person not even related to the family.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >That is exactly why me and Margaret are the only ones, at the moment,
>> >that have access to the base. In the future though a copy of the base
>> >will be held in the Sinclair Archives in Scotland accessible to
>> >researcher in the same way old documents are accessible.
>> >
>> >I think the fear has to do with fear of new technology but if we realize
>> >that there are no relevant difference between documents that consists
>> >of 101010101110000101010100111000010000, bit, byte, kb, mb etc and
>> >documents made out of paper or old papyrus scrolls for that matter. When
>> >it comes down to basics it's pure data all of it. And I am quite
>> >convinced Jean that you would not argue that access to old documents are
>> >the base of all historical research. And Jean, have you never used the
>> >SSDI base on the net?
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This has become a concern for most professional genealogists and most
of
>> >> them are simply refusing to share their material.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >I'm sorry Jean but I believe their motives for refusal has nothing to do
>> >with the above. I think it has to do with $$$$$$$$. They will be out of
>> >business if all data where easy accessible on the net. But that's a
>> >whole different issue which I don't wish to discuss further.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I refuse to allow a few
>> >> to disrupt what I feel is an important goal - hence my refusal to send
>>out
>> >> material on any branch unless the person requesting the material is a
>>proven
>> >> descendant of that branch.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Well, then there will be much easier when learning history in the
>> >future. No kings, no generals, no regents or royal families to memorize
>> >as there will be no public records of them left.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps others will be as honest as I have been and state their true
>> >reasons
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >As managing director of a historical museum I know the importance of
>> >leaving documentation behind for coming generations to explore, research
>> >and learn from. My true reason for starting this project was to gather
>> >as much information as possible in one place without any profit what so
>> >ever for my self (more than the warm feeling that I might have helped
>> >some future researcher in the year 2099). And then, of course,
>> >professional genealogists do have to think of the profit....... I don't!
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >Lena
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