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Your message, which will be sent to everyone who has subscribed to the list sinclair@mids.org. The Cameron site is excellant. It does raise a question for Niven since he was the individual presenting the Zeno Narrative @ Orkney. Where does this Mr Smith get his information that one of the Zeno brothers was defending himself against charges in Venice at the time he was suppose to be navigating for Prince Henry? I was lead to believe that the Map & the Narritive were overlooked by historians due to the polotics of that era. Yours Aye Geo D. [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html