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SINCLAIR ---you wrote - The word Plantation in England to this day is used to denote culitvated areas. Manorial titles as opposed to nobel are still valid although copyhold was abolished. Manorial titles give rights over land or usages such as "the right to hold a fair on a certain day or the right of wreck2 etc Thank you for the insight on the current usage of " Plantation ". I am continually amazed at the more rapid change in the "" English "" of the USA vs. that of England . I think we here ( USA ) have lost something with the evolution ?? Plantation has vanished from current USA usage except to describe the anti -bellum ( pre american civil war ) slave -holding " plantations " that remain from that period . Again , thanks for the insight . Joe Greigg [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html