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"A man can only be sure of his mother!" An old West Indian saying Sinclair ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Grigsby <jgrigsby@bcni.net> To: <sinclair@mids.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 3:18 AM Subject: Re: emphasis on Norman history > Bravo! > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Spirit One Email <laurel@spiritone.com> > To: <sinclair@zilker.net> > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 8:44 AM > Subject: emphasis on Norman history > > > > > >Dear Cousins, > > I confess to being the instigator of so many questions concerning the > >Norman years and transition (titles) into Scotland. The reason for this > >emphasis is that I'm trying to gather every piece of significant history to > >help piece together this foundation of ALL our ancestry that is being > >presented in a 4 part series in the Yours Aye. I wanted to keep these in > >chronological order to help people see the continuity and flow of history. > >I know it is making some of you anxious about getting facts about another > >period that concerns or interests you more. Please bear with me and we > will > >get through this together. More contemporary articles will appear next > >year. > > > > I have had to revise the last article 3 or 4 times as more comes in and > >what I thought was true, needs to be changed completely. I don't fool > >myself into thinking that what will be in print and on the Clan website > will > >be the last word. I think it will be the duty of all to report any new or > >old research that comes along that provides new insight or new facts so > that > >we can update the website. We don't want to keep adding layer after layer > >of misinformation if we can find the facts. There will be times that I > will > >give you 2 or more versions of a story so that you can see where we are in > >our knowledge. In this case. I will not, from this distance of history, > >make a judgement about what is fact or fiction. > > > > I feel that there is a goodly chunk that is missing or that someone > >hasn't sent me yet. It concerns the interaction of the St. Clairs with the > >Capets. I have just little pieces of sentences that hint at intrigues and > >wonderful stories that would explain the actions of the St Clairs, maybe. > > > > Once years ago, I read that Edward the Exile's son was born in Hungary. > >That was all there was in the book. I just couldn't understand how an > >Englishman got to Hungary? Many of you know that story (sort of) and see > >that behind a few words is a list of relationships that are entangled in > the > >story, Queen Emma (St. Clair). Battle of Hastings, William the Seemly, > >Malcolm Canmore, etc., so too, with Hugh Capet the Great probably beginning > >with his father's generation. > > > >I do agree with you that it feels like we are belaboring the subject right > >now. It is really very possible that we don't descend from Rollo or some > of > >his descendants at all. Since there were few women around and many men, > who > >can say who the father really was any more than one can really prove today > >that every male in their line was really their ancestor. But these > >offspring were recognized by the community and raised with the rights and > >titles as if they really were the sons of the Dukes thus they are a product > >of their environment and contributed heavily to the historical records of > >those times. So how much we can rely on our BLOOD being so great and > mighty > >is a debateable subject. (My opinion) I don't think that Blood makes a > >person great. It is how on we conduct ourselves and the moral choices that > >we make that produces either commendable citizens or warts on society. > >Laurel > > > >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org > >[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org > [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html