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This discussion of les Andelys has been fascinating. For example, I wasn't aware that Eleanor of Acquitaine was even still alive when Richard was returning from Outremer, much less that she intervened personally to get him released from Germany. We do seem to be wandering a bit far from Sinclair discussions, so I've added here a seque back to a Sinclair castle. >You are correct <a href="#prevAndelys">my hurried translation</a> >was in error. "Au somme d'une >falasise abrupte se dressent les ruines de Chateau-Galliard, forteresse >edifiee par Richard Coeur de Lion au retour de croisade (1196-1197)." > >Guide de La Route Selection de Reader's Digest S.A Paris 1997 > >Sinclair Translation: At the summit of a sheer cliff rise the ruins of Castle Petulant, fortress built by Richard Lionheart on return from crusade (1196-1197). See also http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2025/age.htm Laurel's and Sinclair's text and the above translation is now in http://www.mids.org/sinclair/normandy.html Meanwhile, in the Girnigoe page, http://internal.mids.org/sinclair/girnigoe.html you'll find a link to some pictures by Becir http://home.worldnet.fr/~becir/Html/Ecosse/Sinc_1.htm which has accompanying text which says: Le Sinclair Castle se situe au Nord de l'Ecosse, pres de Wick. C'est une ruine tres romantique. Il reste peu a visiter mais l'endroit est tres beau: le chateau est construit dans le prolongement de la falaise et descend droit dans la mer. On voit d'ailleurs ici parfaitement les differentes strates et la facon dont les pierres s'ajustent a la roche. Translation: Sinclair Castle is located in the North of Scotland, near Wick. It is a very romantic ruin. It is seldom visited, yet the area is very beautiful: the castle is constructed on a prolongation of the cliff and descends straight to the sea. One can also see clearly there the different strata and the fashion with which the stones [presumably the building stones of the castle] were fitted to the rock. John [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html