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Ken W Sinclair wrote: > > Religion has caused more human suffering and torment, than human greed. And it still does!!!!!!!! Ever heard of Kosovo!!! Regards Lena > Anyone who believe`s in an unforgiving God can see other people harassed and > tortured for blasphemy.(for their own good of course) > It is wonderful to live in this enlighten`d, modern world where we do not > have to worry about being burnt at the stake for Unbelief. > Ken W Sinclair > > > Hello John et al, > > I rarely contribute to this discussion list but have been following it for > > some time. So let me put in my two cents worth. My religious beliefs or > lack > > thereof is no one's business but my own and my personal God's. And it is > my > > personal definition of what and who God is or isn't. > > To quote the comedian George Carlin: " religion is like a pair of shoes. > > Yours may fit you but don't make me wear them. And lets not go out nailing > > shoes on the natives." So let's leave the religious arguments where they > > belong. Within ourselves. > > Brian Sinclair, Ontario Canada > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org> > > To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net> > > Date: Thursday, May 27, 1999 8:21 AM > > Subject: religion on the Sinclair list and web pages > > > > > > > > > > > > >Folks, > > > > > >I was afraid this would happen when I added the religion web pages. > > >That's why I included this disclaimer: > > > This set of web pages is a place to put information about religious > events > > > and dogma that affected Sinclair history and genealogy. > > > Religion and politics are notoriously divisive subjects, > > > so let me hasten to say at the outset that opinions from many > > > different people will be represented here, and I do not confirm, > > > deny, attest, or refute any of them, except where I explicitly > > > say so. --jsq > > > > > >I suggest we apply a similar disclaimer to religious postings on the > > >discussion list. > > > > > >Let's back up and think about this a little. > > > > > >There have been allusions to the Jesus and Magdalene parentage story > > >in the book list in the web pages and in links related to Templars > > >for quite some time. Probably most Sinclairs are aware that that's > > >what the Baigent Holy Blood Holy Grail book is about. So the story > > >is nothing new. > > > > > >It's also just a story, not to mention one that is generally rejected > > >by most scholars who have attempted to check what that books says. > > > > > >There are also links to various Muslim pages. Muslims believe that > > >Jesus was just a prophet. > > > > > >There are also links to various Jewish pages. Jews don't even believe > > >that Jesus was a prophet. > > > > > >There are links to Cathar information. The Cathars didn't believe Jesus > > >was a human. > > > > > >There are links to Hindu information. Some Hindus believe Jesus was > > >an avatar of Vishnu. > > > > > >Then there are Buddhists, for whom Jesus has no particular significance. > > > > > >And that's only a small sample of beliefs that are out there. > > > > > >Should I remove all these links, and should no one mention any of these > > >things on the list? I think it's safe to say that some of them are > > >considered blasphemous by some people on the list. > > > > > >However, please remember that none of you are being asked to believe any > > >of them. At least, I hope not. Religious proselytizing is probably > > >beyond the scope of this list. > > > > > >But some or all of the above beliefs are related to topics that are > > >relevant to Sinclairs, which is why they are mentioned in the web pages > > >and why discussion of them on this list is relevant. This is a family > > >whose motto is Commit Thy Work to God. Religion (of more than one kind) > > >is inextricably intertwined with the history of the Sinclair family. > > > > > >I, for one, see no difficulty with anyone describing any of the above > > >(or other) beliefs or stories, and also no difficulty with anyone saying > > >they don't believe them. But I would hope that we can all do those > things > > >with civility. And could we all refrain from overgeneralizations such > > >as "All Sinclairs believe," as well as from overreactions whenever > somebody > > >does slip and post something like that. > > > > > >If we can't do that, Niven's idea of a separate list for such matters > > >may be what we will need to do. > > > > > >Comments? Opinions? Suggestions? > > > > > >John > > >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. > > >[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > > > > > > > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. > > [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. > [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html