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Dear Friend Niven, As always your eloquence and insight surpasses my own vision. As to my own work, I concur completely with your views and suggestions if they are agreeable with the others. I perceive a bright, clear core of sacred Light within the Clan and feel that members should have a "safe" area to express what they see as beautiful and sacred, particularly relevant to Clan interest. My own view is that this is really the life and vitality within the Clan's collective spirit ...vital Essence. I would take it further as you know and stress its importance within Clan Sinclair especially. Every persons' sense of the Holy is critically important, particularly now. There will be those who will see the wonder of it all and move with that. All views are important and we need only cut the other person the slack to express his or her thoughts. I personally do not separate the Sacred from religion, even dogma as long as the participants view that as sacred. (My church is independent Catholic, does not permit dogma.) But your idea of separating them would work well I would think. Perhaps a clear statement by John and Laurel preceding each section would ease the grief, opening it to positive expressions of belief without having to worry about them being agreeable to everyone. "Uamau ke ea o ka aina i ka pono." ...The life of the land is perpetuated in Righteousness. I would be very pleased to remain a part of the big event. Blessings, Bill [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html