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All I can say is - thank goodness I can look at my mother's plane ticket to see how my line arrived in America!! Opps - even that isn't a great clue. My mother found out when she applied for her passport that the name (first) she had always known as her own - wasn't even the same as on her birth certificate. Even to this day she is not sure which to use! Anybody tracing her will think she is two separate people! Have a great evening! Juli -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinclair@jump.net [mailto:owner-sinclair@jump.net] On Behalf Of Plumpett@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 10:44 PM To: sinclair@jump.net Subject: Re: MacGregors JULI -- There is no answer for what you want to know !! I too have seen records which say " ----- ------, born ------- MACGREGOR " . The dash marks are where a last name was in use other than MacGregor !!! It was hard to kill a book or a tombstone . Part of the Prosciption 's legal effects were that real property could not be held in the MacGregor name , so at best , a split set of records exist from that time period . Even in the USA , I have seen records that said , for example , James -------. born James MacGregor !! Without question , today there are Sinclairs , for example , who are MacGregors by bloodline but have 400 years of history under the name of Sinclair !! All this makes Genealogical efforts much harder but it also seems that the assumed name spelling was often much more consistent in a family line than was the case where a name was an adopted one --not always the case , but not uncommon . Add the effect of the Clearances , and you have Highlanders being displaced from Scotland to England thence to Ireland and then migrating to North America . People find an ancestor coming from Ireland and are immediately under the wrong impression that they have a link to Ireland whereas it was only a boarding point for a ship to America . There were also other name proscriptions in Scotland , for example , that of the Clan RUTHVEN . JOE [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html