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Dear John: You question is indeed the nub of the issues surrounding the Argyll Sinclairs. On the one hand, the name is so clearly the same as that of the Caithness-Rosslyn Family but on the other hand, there appears to be no direct connection that is currently traceable such as that say of the MacDonalds of the Isles and MacDonnell of Glengarry where there was a direct off-shoot of the former to the latter. What appears to have happened is that the Argyll Sinclairs arrived there approximately congruent in time with the Highland Clearances and Industrial Revolution (which among other things caused an enormous upheaval in 'residency' of so many Scots) that affected all Clans and indeed the whole population of Scotland. That is why, for example, you will find Campbells in Sutherland and everywhere else for that matter and not just their ancestral home in Argyll. Pick any Clan name and Scottish County name for the above sentence and you will be essentially correct. In our case, the puzzle is that there is more than just a few scattered families with the Sinclair name in Argyll. Indeed, it appears to be a solid family group. That they were also working class or agricultural labourers does not help in tracing their origins as regular folk were not kept track of the same way aristocrats were. If I were a betting man, I would bet that the Sinclairs of Argyll indeed are descended from the Rosslyn-Caithness Sinclairs but that the proof of that is going to be some time in coming. Brother Clansman, Neil Sinclair of Toronto has prepared a paper on the Argyll Sinclairs and I am indebted to him for some of the above information. His paper will be published in the newsletter of the The Clan Sinclair Association (Canada) "Rosslyn O' Rosslyn" in the near future. Hope this is helpful. Yours Aye, Rory. -----Original Message----- From: John Duguid <john.duguid@snl.co.uk> To: sinc <"sinclair@zilker.net"@"sinclair@zilker.net".snl.co.uk> Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:59 AM Subject: Sinclairs by mistake? > > Alexander Sinclairs book states > >> The Gaelic form of the name Sinclair is Singlear. The Sinclairs of >>Argyleshire call themselves Clann-na-Cearda or the Children of the craft or >>trade. It is probable that the name was given them by their neighbours >would >naturally take for gratned that Singlear meant shingler or >flax-dresser. The >Sinclairs of Argyll are out-and -out Highlanders. > > >Forgive me for being obtuse but does this mean that argyle Sinclairs may have >no real clain to be descended from the Norman/Scandiavian Sinclairs? > >Yours Aye > >john > >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. >[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html > [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html