Thanx Laurel, I'm passing this on to my brother in law.
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From: Spirit One Email <laurel@spiritone.com>
To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Connections with Portugal??
>
>Dear Paul,
> For your Sutherland brother-in-law.
> Just going down through the Earl line of the Sinclairs I see that
>William Sinclair b.c. 1433 m. Marjorie Sutherland b.c. 1436 of Dunbeath,
>Caithness d. before 1480. She was the d/o Alexander Sutherland b.c. 1395
>and Marione Ile.
>
>and John 3rd Earl of Caithness b. 1490 m. Elizabeth Sutherland b.c. 1488 at
>the time residing in Duffus, Moray, Scotland, the d/o William Sutherland
and
>Janet Innes. chidlren: Willaim b.c. 1446 d. 1527 and George 4th Earl of
>Caithness b. 1533 d. 9 Sept. 1582
> John m. 2. to unknown b.c. 1500
> John m. 3rd to unknown and had David of Dun b.c. 1540 d. Mar. 1560.
>There are 48 Sutherland names in the index of Vol 1 of Pete Cummings
>"Genealogy of Prince Henry Sinclair" See book section of website.
>
> I was about to return the borrowed book "A Prospect of Sutherland" by
>Gilbert T. Bell. I don't know whether you were on this site at the time I
>gave a brief report of it???
>It gives a chapter of the ancient history of the Sutherlands. It goes into
>depth about family from about the 1700's and gives a good account of a
>great family scandal. It tells about the Duke of Sutherland who built the
>RR a branch of which went over to wick. He promoted many schemes to help
>employ the people around there. I'm sure that some of our Sinclairs must
>have gone over to work in the mines or on the RR. He brought in great
>agricultural machinery but the land just wouldn't be fruitful. Really
>interesting to read some of the nuts and bolts of the economy.
>
> You know I always thought that Sutherland was a Swedish name. I knew a
>Sutherland family in Wisconsin. In fact Harold saved me from drowning. I
>am really curious about this.
> No Temple surnames in Pete's books.
>Laurel
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: paul and k <pmtemple@muscanet.com>
>To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
>Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 10:12 AM
>Subject: Re: Connections with Portugal??
>
>
>>
>>I am amazed at how the Sinclair website has helped me in my "quest" Here
>is
>>another example. thanx for your advice on the Augustan society. Out of
>the
>>many messages we receive each day from the Sinclair site, there may be
>>several each week that end up being significant to me. I am a Stewart
>>decendent on my mother's side, this site helps much. My brother in law is
>a
>>Sutherland. I will pass on to him that he should look at the Sinclair
site
>>since I see much about them in the mail. I am interested also in the
>Temple
>>geneology. looking for names such as Laertes, Ira, Joshua, Temple. I
>>thought it was a Welsh name. but I may be looking in wrong places.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Spirit One Email <laurel@spiritone.com>
>>To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
>>Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 11:10 AM
>>Subject: Re: Connections with Portugal??
>>
>>
>>>
>>>The Augustan Society, Inc. has a 10 page reprint called "The Templars in
>>>Portugal" by Dr. Giorgio A. Masini. If you go to the sinclair website,
>>>click on FAQ's and go down to #69 you will see a link to the Augustan
>site.
>>>Follow it to the reprint part. You will be amazed at all the interesting
>>>reprints that they have. Many on Templars and chivalry but also ships
>>>lists, genealogy (I found info on my Palmer line. Never suspected that
it
>>>would come from this source) but lots of interesting stuff.
>>> But just scrolling through it I did not see the above mentioned
>>Portugal
>>>item so have sent a query about it. I would recommend that all of you
get
>>a
>>>feeling for what is on this website. I think it will be helpful.
>Probably
>>>in other parts there will be more good stuff so look around.
>>>Laurel
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Plumpett@aol.com <Plumpett@aol.com>
>>>To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
>>>Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 2:21 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Connections with Portugal??
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Two possible connections come to mind ?
>>>>
>>>>First , the Templar survival in Portugal where it continued to flourish
,
>>>>similar to the situation in Scotland .
>>>>
>>>>Second , the travel to the Holy Land with the heart of Bruce , which may
>>>have
>>>>involved Portugal prior to the death of the Sinclair ( ? William ) in
>>Spain
>>>>in a battle with the Moors .
>>>>
>>>> Joe Greigg
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>>>>
>>>
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