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Hi All - Spoke extensively with the Archivist in Argyll regarding Mhic na cearda and together we learned a few things. First, he was not aware that this was the Gaelic for Sinclair until he confirmed with Dwelly's Gaelic Dictionary. So we discussed my theory that the McNokaird's found in the old archives and early OPRs was the English phonetically spelling of Mhic na cearda. While he admits he has never looked into it - he does believe it is possible. So he very kindly checked Black's for me and the Gaelic for McNokaird is ... Mhic na cearda! What the entry says about McNokaird's I don't know. I was trying (desperately - but not very successful ) not to take up to much time from Murdo and since I have a copy of Black's on the way I told him I would check it in detail then. Cearda (pronounced kyard) does mean tinker or dealer in metals. The records in Argyll were first kept in Scots and then in English - the administration records are never found in Gaelic. Many people went through life in Argyll with two forms of the same name. Their Gaelic and their English version. Many were not even similar in appearance or pronunciation. Murdo told me a very funny story of a gentleman he recently helped who for most of his life believed his grandfather had been married to two separate women - one a Lamont and one (can't remember the Gaelic correctly) - anyway they were one and the same. She had just used both names interchangeably during her lifetime. Most gravestones are in English even though the language spoken was Gaelic. Oh - by the way while Mac, Mc, Mhic etc.. mean son of, Nic, N', Nik, Nc etc.. mean daughter of so when you are checking old records remember to cross reference! I tried to see if Murdo knew the magazine that Ray Lower has seen. He was not familiar but I will check with my friend at the district library and if all else fails I have a great contact with the Inveraray Historical Society who specializes in Glen Shira - she is a MacGregor of course! Anyway - fellow Argyll Sinclair's you are Mhic na ceard - be proud! How we actually link to our fellow clansmen in Caithness I am not sure . Any ideas? Have a great day! Juli Anderson Princeton, NJ But Always Argyll [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html