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[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. [ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html ------- Laurel, You really have a little too much time on your hands. (LOL) I am really not sure but you might try to obtain a photo of the banner of the Clan Chief which was carried at Loon and at Westford. FYI: the "Rooster" is a Cock Sergeant as is portrayed on the Clan badge. The other items you listed I seem to recall were on the Banner of the Clan Chief. If you have photos from Loon or Westford check them out. Maybe Mary or others have photos which could be lent to the Clan Sinclair site. All for now Gary M. Sinclair Also, check out Ancient and weathered tartan as the colors are slightly different. Your sash sounds like it is Modern Dress Sinclair. I have a neck ties in Modern Dress, Ancient Dress, and Ancient Hunting. All are distinctly different as is the Modern Hunting. [ [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. [ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see [ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html [ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the body: [ info sinclair [ [ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: [ [ To: majordomo@zilker.net [ [ unsubscribe sinclair [